OT: Casey Mize
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I know he's good, but is he really that good? Should be huge for recruiting if it happens.
He is a top 10 prospect.....I think. I don't know if he is really that good, so that is why I asked.
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What's his injury history? I think that'll probably play a part. It sure would for me if I was drafting a guy top-10.
If his velocity doesn’t fall off or have arm troubles this year, I think he’s got a distant shot at it.
D1baseball.com had him #3 among college players a little over a month ago
https://d1baseball.com/prospects/2018-draft-college-top-100-prospects/
He "GOOD AZ HAYUL" DAWG!!
Don't know if he kan git to be dat NUMBA WUN pick, but I bet heeeez close!!!!
A lot depends on hiz hellth. Dem major league GM's gunna DEEETALE dat arm like it ain't nobodeeeeez biznesss!!
His fast ball is consistently at 94. His breaking balls at high 80’s to 90. His change up has shown movement and I’ve seen it range from low 70’s to low 80’s. Has 4 pitches that he absolutely owns, where as your typical Friday starter has 2, maybe 3 on occasion.
He missed a little time last year with some forearm tightness but hasn't had any significant injuries from everything I know and have read. To me, his biggest issue is his splitter. It's a nasty, nasty pitch, and he commands it so well. But I can't think of any pitcher who threw it well and often that didn't have an elbow problem at some point. But I also don't think that would stop any MLB team from drafting. His FB is great, explosive. His splitter is his best pitch. His slider is much better and crisper this year and is a great third pitch.
He has everything you want in a top pitching prospect. Great location, smart pitcher. I could see him being the top pick, but I think that will all depend on team need and what HS kids are available. He's at worst a top 15 prospect.
In Mize's career, he has a 219/30 K/BB ratio in 184 IP. Since the start of last year, that ratio is 160/12 in 116.1 IP. Those are staggering numbers at this level.
I'm not a baseball guy, but it feels like every pitcher now has an arm injury history of some sorts. I don't recall many guys who have a totally clean bill of health lately. Is this just the new normal?
I think it is now since these kids play travel ball from the time they can walk and don't ever rest their arms playign other sports like normal kids.
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I knew his other pitches were money. Seems like last year when he had arm issues he lost a little velocity. Sounds like he is good to go with that
I don’t even watch baseball anymore but still follow a lot of numbers and statistical shit helping a buddy run his team in a huge fantasy league
K/BB ratio is one of the best indicators of a pitchers ability without having to go deep into the weeds on FIP and xFIP and god knows what else I’m not even cool enough to know about... it’s a quick & easy snapshot - and Mize’s is almost unfathomable
that alone tells me he’s a stud prospect that teams will fall in love with
That is insanely good. Coach Shoop at UAB is a really good coach IMO. I got to spend some time with him a few years ago and he had some really good statistics on what games come down to. I don't remember the exact numbers, but basically a lot of games come down to one team having a big inning (or more big innings). Almost every big inning in baseball comes from either a walk, hbp or an error. Mize having that kind of walk ratio is going to have teams drooling.
Just hope for the kid’s sake that Butch doesn’t run him into the ground again this year
He's certainly on that pace right now.
He’s going to struggle the rest of the year. Just too much data out there on him.
How bout TANNER BERNZ hittin dat JUGGZ gun at freeeekin 97 m.p.h.
I just pointed that out because that top velocity number is relevant to scouts. Maxing out at 94 versus still being able to hit 96 in the 9th is a big deal.
Pretty good read on Mize adding a new pitch to his arsenal courtesy of Tyler Stovall.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/03/casey_mizes_new_pitch.html
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/03/casey_mizes_new_pitch.html
He's gotta be the most dominant college pitcher I've ever seen. I sit behind the plate and it's incredible the way he sets guys up and how well he hits his spots. It's almost like it's a win for a batter if they put the ball in play. When he threw his no hitter two weeks ago he hit 96 multiple times in the 9th inning. If he can stay healthy I don't see too many teams passing on him.
What I like, that the above article pointed out, is he's relying on the cutter and slider more this year than the splitter, which can wear on the arm. If that's the case, he likely has a better chance to make it through the season without arm issues than he did last year when he really lived on that splitter.
From Perfect Game:
Top 10 Prospects, 2018 MLB Draft
Rk. Player POS. School Rk. Player Pos. School
1 Casey Mize RHP Auburn
2 Matthew Liberatore LHP Mountain Ridge
3 Shane McClanahan LHP South Florida
4 Ethan Hankins RHP Forsyth Central
5 Travis Swaggerty OF South Alabama
6 Ryan Rolison LHP Ole Miss
7 Nick Madrigal 2B Oregon State
8 Nolan Gorman 3B/SS Sandra Day O'Connor
9 Mason Denaburg RHP Merritt Island
10 Jarred Kelenic OF Waukesha West
Top 10 Prospects, 2018 MLB Draft
Rk. Player POS. School Rk. Player Pos. School
1 Casey Mize RHP Auburn
2 Matthew Liberatore LHP Mountain Ridge
3 Shane McClanahan LHP South Florida
4 Ethan Hankins RHP Forsyth Central
5 Travis Swaggerty OF South Alabama
6 Ryan Rolison LHP Ole Miss
7 Nick Madrigal 2B Oregon State
8 Nolan Gorman 3B/SS Sandra Day O'Connor
9 Mason Denaburg RHP Merritt Island
10 Jarred Kelenic OF Waukesha West
The 2018 spring season has reached approximately the one-third mark and the 2018 June Draft, to be held on the relatively early dates of June 4-6, is shaping up to be a strong one, especially if you are an organization that covets talented high ceiling pitching.
A big focus of cross-checkers’ attention in the early spring is seeing the top pitching right out of the gate and picking up the top position players as opportunity allows, preferably against upper-level pitching. Conversations with numerous cross-checkers by the Perfect Game scouting staff, plus a steady schedule of games, indicate that there have been few disappointments thus far and plenty of pleasant surprises.
The two biggest names on the college side have been Auburn righthander Casey Mize and South Florida southpaw Shane McClanahan, both of whom have put themselves solidly in the mix for the Detroit Tigers' No. 1 overall pick.
Mize has gone 5-0, 1.94 over his first five starts, allowing only 15 hits in 32 innings while striking out 51 hitters and only walking three. While Mize has three present plus pitches in his mid-90s fastball, a power split-finger and a 90 mph cutter in addition to his outstanding control, it's notable that all his pitches register in the upper-80s at minimum. That's an unusual combination that will leave scouts thinking about what that will mean for a big league starter.
McClanahan has been just as dominant, posting a 3-1, 0.00 record over five starts and 30 innings, striking out an NCAA leading 56 hitters, although he has issued more walks (13) than he has allowed hits (12). The third-year sophomore, who missed the 2016 season after undergoing TJ surgery, has consistently been working in the mid- to upper-90s with his fastball and flashing plus on a low-80s curveball and mid-80s changeup.
Mize and McClanahan have separated themselves for many scouts from the next tier of college arms, which include righthanders Jackson Kowar and Brady Singer from Florida, Stetson righthander Logan Gilbert and Mississippi draft-eligible sophomore lefthander Ryan Rollison. Singer, who sat atop many scouts lists to start the spring, has performed extremely well in the Friday night role for the No. 1-ranked Gators, going 5-0, 1.97 with a 32-to-5 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 32 innings, but his raw stuff is down across the board as he works out inconsistencies in his arm slot.
A big focus of cross-checkers’ attention in the early spring is seeing the top pitching right out of the gate and picking up the top position players as opportunity allows, preferably against upper-level pitching. Conversations with numerous cross-checkers by the Perfect Game scouting staff, plus a steady schedule of games, indicate that there have been few disappointments thus far and plenty of pleasant surprises.
The two biggest names on the college side have been Auburn righthander Casey Mize and South Florida southpaw Shane McClanahan, both of whom have put themselves solidly in the mix for the Detroit Tigers' No. 1 overall pick.
Mize has gone 5-0, 1.94 over his first five starts, allowing only 15 hits in 32 innings while striking out 51 hitters and only walking three. While Mize has three present plus pitches in his mid-90s fastball, a power split-finger and a 90 mph cutter in addition to his outstanding control, it's notable that all his pitches register in the upper-80s at minimum. That's an unusual combination that will leave scouts thinking about what that will mean for a big league starter.
McClanahan has been just as dominant, posting a 3-1, 0.00 record over five starts and 30 innings, striking out an NCAA leading 56 hitters, although he has issued more walks (13) than he has allowed hits (12). The third-year sophomore, who missed the 2016 season after undergoing TJ surgery, has consistently been working in the mid- to upper-90s with his fastball and flashing plus on a low-80s curveball and mid-80s changeup.
Mize and McClanahan have separated themselves for many scouts from the next tier of college arms, which include righthanders Jackson Kowar and Brady Singer from Florida, Stetson righthander Logan Gilbert and Mississippi draft-eligible sophomore lefthander Ryan Rollison. Singer, who sat atop many scouts lists to start the spring, has performed extremely well in the Friday night role for the No. 1-ranked Gators, going 5-0, 1.97 with a 32-to-5 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 32 innings, but his raw stuff is down across the board as he works out inconsistencies in his arm slot.
