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OT: So we didn't even make the WORLD CUP???

Pathetic. I try to get into soccer but you see this bush league BS where they give Panama a goal because the sport is so archaic. Got one oulde hispanic dude running up and down the pitch officiating instead of using things like ‘video’ or ‘more than one oulde Hispanic dude’.

The whole thing is so outlandish. Don’t get me started on yellow and red cards.
 
Really disappointing. Can’t imagine how pissed off Fox and Nike executives were last night.

The sad thing is, I’m not sure the squad is gonna be better in 4 years when they have try and qualify again. Pulisic, Brooks, and Yedlin should all be great, but there are huge massive question marks everywhere else. Probably still be trotting out Altidore and Bradley in 4 years bc the US can’t develop anyone to replace them yet
 
I don’t want to start another thread but it’s just bizarre the world is so accepting of the rules/ officiating of the sport.

The officials, the card system, offsides, penalty kick placement, timekeeping, no video review. Madness.
 
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I don’t want to start another thread but it’s just bizarre the world is so accepting of the rules/ officiating of the sport.

The officials, the card system, offsides, penalty kick placement, timekeeping, no video review. Madness.

I used to think this way until I started watching more and more soccer, mainly the EPL. Video review is on its way though as the MLS is already using it.
 
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I don’t want to start another thread but it’s just bizarre the world is so accepting of the rules/ officiating of the sport.

The officials, the card system, offsides, penalty kick placement, timekeeping, no video review. Madness.
I really don’t understand the gripe about red and yellow cards. And what is wrong with penalty kick placement?

Video review is a slippery slope bc it can potentially slow the game down to an unwatchable lull if they start reviewing everything. I enjoy the flow of the game and don’t want it to turn into over officiated non sense like the nfl or college basketball. Goal line technology like hockey is the only thing I’m for
 
Yea I havn't seen how they've incorporated video replay into MLS, but it seems like it would be terrible for the sport. You have a clock that never stops in soccer. I guess we could start seeing 10 min of stoppage time added depending on how replays went. I just don't think that would be good for the sport.
 
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I really don’t understand the gripe about red and yellow cards. And what is wrong with penalty kick placement?

Video review is a slippery slope bc it can potentially slow the game down to an unwatchable lull if they start reviewing everything. I enjoy the flow of the game and don’t want it to turn into over officiated non sense like the nfl or college basketball. Goal line technology like hockey is the only thing I’m for
The cards are just weird and arbitrary to me. And then you play a man down the whole game with 1 red card.

Considering the difficulty of scoring a soccer goal I find the penalty kick way too easy a shot.

The flow of the game is the best part of soccer. I wouldn't review everything but you can't have a situation where a ref 20 yds away sees a ball go in the net that didn't.

Then you don't have an official game clock. Just goofy got a guy with a stop watch keeping time no way of knowing when the half/ game is going to end.
 
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I do think a hockey style soccer league would be cool though. Just adopt their substitution/rotation rules and create a penalty box for people that get yellow cards. That’d be fun to watch
I'd like to see a blue line in soccer where once you possess the ball inside the 18yd area there's no offsides.
 
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I'd like to see a blue line in soccer where once you possess the ball inside the 18yd area there's no offsides.
Yeah. I think that’d create a lot of spacing problems for the defense since the field is so big. For better or worse, you’d start seeing massive amounts of scoring.
 
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Yeah. I think that’d create a lot of spacing problems for the defense since the field is so big. For better or worse, you’d start seeing massive amounts of scoring.
Google tells me Premiere league averages less than 3 goals per game. Personally I'd find it infinitely more interesting if it was closer to 5.
 
I think if you implement that blue line rule, you’d see the avg be more around 8-12. And i think smaller teams would have zero chance to compete
Seems high. Not like they'd ever change anything anyway. Maybe move into like 15 yds. That penalty box is too big anyway.
 
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Seems high. Not like they'd ever change anything anyway. Maybe move into like 15 yds. That penalty box is too big anyway.
If you eliminate off sides then you’re just gonna see a bunch of man to man defense and that benefits the super technical/athletic offensive players just like in the NBA. The lower level teams would have no chance. And you’d also see way more penalties
 
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If you eliminate off sides then you’re just gonna see a bunch of man to man defense and that benefits the super technical/athletic offensive players just like in the NBA. The lower level teams would have no chance. And you’d also see way more penalties
Yeah I wouldn’t eliminate all together just in the scoring area. Would be cool to see the best with some more space to work.
 
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I'm despondent. I drank most of the hotel mini bar. I'm a few blocks from Wrigley and I don't even want to go see the Cubs now.

That's as bad as I've felt since the Rose Bowl and it might be worse. It's 5 years before I can even see any redemption from this. When I walked out of the Rose Bowl I at least had some tiny hope we might be really good the next season.
 
I'm despondent. I drank most of the hotel mini bar. I'm a few blocks from Wrigley and I don't even want to go see the Cubs now.

That's as bad as I've felt since the Rose Bowl and it might be worse. It's 5 years before I can even see any redemption from this. When I walked out of the Rose Bowl I at least had some tiny hope we might be really good the next season.

This is me today, I actually totally forgot about the game last night and didn't watch. Boy am I glad I didn't.
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I'm despondent. I drank most of the hotel mini bar. I'm a few blocks from Wrigley and I don't even want to go see the Cubs now.

That's as bad as I've felt since the Rose Bowl and it might be worse. It's 5 years before I can even see any redemption from this. When I walked out of the Rose Bowl I at least had some tiny hope we might be really good the next season.
Hard for me to get that upset about it bc I know that this squad is terrible. I’m gonna miss having the US in the tournament, but this team really is over the hill and lethargic. Happy to see Panama qualify for the first time
 
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Hard for me to get that upset about it bc I know that this squad is terrible. I’m gonna miss having the US in the tournament, but this team really is over the hill and lethargic. Happy to see Panama qualify for the first time

See the hope was that they used these vets to qualify and then we saw some fresh talent come in. That happens every cycle. I'm not sure guys like Yedlin played huge roles in qualifying before 2014 WC, but then they were starters or key players the year later when we got there.

The only plus to missing out is that it forces us to move on from the old guard. I've loved Dempsey for a long time, but he's done. I've never really liked the games of some of these other guys so I'm ready to see them walk away. But man it sucks so bad that I'll be watching the freaking World Cup and we aren't even going to get 3 games there. I think I remember things about every group stage game we've played since I was 9 years old. First time we don't even get that. Just brutal.
 
Since there is some real soccer love here, I thought this article did a pretty solid job detailing the void of prime aged talent on this squad. A few of you may appreciate reading it.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/the-missing-years-u-s-soccer-s-development-gap

@jeramye I'm with you. Maybe there is a silver lining here that this will be the end for a good portion of the player pool and hopefully for Arena and Gulati and others. Hopefully, we gut the team for the friendlies in November and start with a fresh group of youngsters now that it seems we have a solid group of 18-21 year old players.
 
Since there is some real soccer love here, I thought this article did a pretty solid job detailing the void of prime aged talent on this squad. A few of you may appreciate reading it.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/the-missing-years-u-s-soccer-s-development-gap

@jeramye I'm with you. Maybe there is a silver lining here that this will be the end for a good portion of the player pool and hopefully for Arena and Gulati and others. Hopefully, we gut the team for the friendlies in November and start with a fresh group of youngsters now that it seems we have a solid group of 18-21 year old players.
Good stuff, thanks.
 
Not sure he should be so condescending about the economics of the mls considering he comes from the most monetarily mismanaged club in the world. But I agree with him about a lot of the rest.
 
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