******Official Boog Recruiting Thread******

[MomentInTheSun]

Just like we have an official Boog B-ball thread and Boog game threads, I think it’s time to launch an official Boog recruiting thread where we consolidate all of our thoughts about hulking teens into one place.

I’ll kick it off by saying that the Boog in my heart is concerned about DL recruiting at the moment. If Rodney misses on Coynis Miller, then that’s a massive massive whiff.

I’m also a bit concerned that Greg hasn’t landed a good CB yet. Sounds like he has a few safeties on lockdown but we gonna need CBs soon once Boom and Trob’s boys jump to the League

Obviously Coach Kodi is massively dissapointing on the trail but that goes without saying

 

[BigtimeAub]

I absolutely loathe the fact that Shivers is actually being offered a scholarship. Utterly and massively stupid. And why are we not going balls to the wall for Pierce or Cook for that spot? There will always be room to designate an undersized speedy WR for the speed sweep without wasting a full scholarship for that one play. I’m good with Gatewood and either Curry or the Rush Propst QB kid. OL recruiting sucks balls and we’re continuing to dig that hole. Hopefully ol’ Herbie can piecemeal together another OL made up entirely of transfers.

 

[Denim Vest]

I try not to follow it but it appears we’re surrounded by superior HC crooters at this point and don’t have any dynamic assistants on staff sans maybe T Will. Hell we got CAM grooming the next transcendent QB and can’t get a sniff.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

I absolutely loathe the fact that Shivers is actually being offered a scholarship. Utterly and massively stupid. And why are we not going balls to the wall for Pierce or Cook for that spot? There will always be room to designate an undersized speedy WR for the speed sweep without wasting a full scholarship for that one play. I’m good with Gatewood and either Curry or the Rush Propst QB kid. OL recruiting sucks balls and we’re continuing to dig that hole. Hopefully ol’ Herbie can piecemeal together another OL made up entirely of transfers.

Yeah. OL recruiting is weird. Do we have a Center on the roster? Cause they definitely don’t trust Kim very much. Maybe they plan on rolling with Brahms? Either way, looks like Gus and Herb will go on another recruiting OT hiatus after landing Ashley and Troxell last cycle

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Color me uninterested until the boogs have a staff that is capable of adequately developing the talent they recruit.

 

[jacen]

I still think the boogs may drop one of the next 3, which practically assures Gus and his high school staff are ousted. I know...problems in the AD and all of that but football his king of boogville and the PTB hate Gus as much as the fans. In this class, neither RB's will provide meaningful snaps for years, DL recruiting in nonexistent, and the guard U theme continues at OL. I've said it over and over that Kodi's job should hinge on landing Justyn Ross. No way the boogs should let a big time receiver like that leave the state.

 

[CowardlyToaster]

Only current recruit I'd heard of was Fields. Now that that ship has sailed I'll go back to not giving a shit.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Only current recruit I'd heard of was Fields. Now that that ship has sailed I'll go back to not giving a shit.

Yeah. As I get older, my interest in crootin continues to wane each year. Maybe in a couple of years I'll be a full on levels of apathy, but I'm not quite there so here's the thread.

@cookedw do you have any scuttlebutt on coynis miller? Really is the only kid i care about landing this year. Gotta have them elite, highly coveted fat kids.

 

[cookedw]

Yeah. As I get older, my interest in crootin continues to wane each year. Maybe in a couple of years I'll be a full on levels of apathy, but I'm not quite there so here's the thread.

@cookedw do you have any scuttlebutt on coynis miller? Really is the only kid i care about landing this year. Gotta have them elite, highly coveted fat kids.

It seems like our mods on rivals and 247 think Auburn. One bama mod said he is still sticking with bama, but isn't overly confident. Doesn't seem like anyone is really thinking it will be Florida.

I am with you, MITS. This is the must get of our recruiting class. We put all out eggs in this basket in landing a HS stud. Garner misses on him, he deserves every bit of criticism to be thrown his way for not having a back up plan.

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

Oh look, another year where QB, RB, CB, OT and DL recruiting blows.

 

[cookedw]

Oh look, another year where QB, RB, CB, OT and DL recruiting blows.

This is where you and I disagree. I don't think with our current QB/RB blows at all. I think we did quite well there.

I think we can still land a very good DL and OL class, depending on who we close with.

Not sure on CB. Im hoping we take that JUCO kid originally from Prattville (that left Michigan).

 

[MomentInTheSun]

QB recruiting is fine. Joey Gatewood is a god damn Cam clone and somehow people think he sucks. I'm kind of undecided on the Shivers kid. He looks like he could grow into a thick dude like Jaq Rodgers or something. Still doesn't mean Gus will ever give him the ball though.

WR recruiting is most likely ass. OL and DL recruiting are TBD

 

[L I G E R]

This is where you and I disagree. I don't think with our current QB/RB blows at all. I think we did quite well there.

Do you think our QB/RB recruiting is on par with our rivals, or on par with a program that expects to compete for national championships each year moving forward?

Part-time ATH Gatewood (who won't be developed into running the full offense for at least 2-3 years under Gus's dumbass "zone read only" approach to bringing along young QBs) and some no-name backup plan with zero offers from championship programs just ain't cutting it.

There's only so many years of misses you can excuse before someone(s) on staff needs to be punched in the face.

I think we can still land a very good DL and OL class, depending on who we close with.

One Coynis Miller and one Trey Hill, plus some other lowly recruited backup plans, does not a good OL and DL class make. It would actually be pretty terrible.

Oh look, another year where QB, RB, CB, OT and DL recruiting blows.

I legit hate Gus for his HS QB recruiting and his approach to signing OL and DL. Basically zero planning, zero long-term vision, and zero "at whatever cost necessary" commitment to signing elite studs at the 3 most important positions for our program. Damnit.

 

[Denim Vest]

I’m sure we’ll back door a top 15 crootin ranking but we’re just getting owned on the trail. Particularly in GA. We aren’t getting anyone from FL either. Not plucking a Lawson, Adams, C Davis etc like we used to.

Used to battle anyone for top GA guys. Now we’re clearly behind bama, UGA, Clemson, FSU. Lose guys to LSU, UT, Michigan, Ohio St. Richt taking whatever scraps we used to get in S FL. Not good. Hell we even battling for bama scraps in AL.

My main concern is getting EJ back in the fold and our beloved bball crootin.

 

[cookedw]

Do you think our QB/RB recruiting is on par with our rivals, or on par with a program that expects to compete for national championships each year moving forward?

Part-time ATH Gatewood (who won't be developed into running the full offense for at least 2-3 years under Gus's dumbass "zone read only" approach to bringing along young QBs) and some no-name backup plan with zero offers from championship programs just ain't cutting it.

There's only so many years of misses you can excuse before someone(s) on staff needs to be punched in the face.

One Coynis Miller and one Trey Hill, plus some other lowly recruited backup plans, does not a good OL and DL class make. It would actually be pretty terrible.

I legit hate Gus for his HS QB recruiting and his approach to signing OL and DL. Basically zero planning, zero long-term vision, and zero "at whatever cost necessary" commitment to signing elite studs at the 3 most important positions for our program. Damnit.

1) Last year and this year (assuming we hold onto Gatewood and Martin), yes.
2) For DL: If we get Miller, Jibunar, Oladele, Newkirk, that is a very good foursome. Need one more guy though that could probably be a hybrid.
For OL: If we add Hill and Wynnom, that would make a very good foursome. Would like to see us add 2 more tackles (with Wynnom being one)

With that said, with Gus at the helm, I don't think talent will ever matter. We can have it and dude will find a way to mess it up.

Edit - @L I G E R , why the change in opinion of Gatewood?

https://auburn.forums.rivals.com/th...he-1-qb-if-not-1-overall-player-right.212146/

 

[MomentInTheSun]

I’m sure we’ll back door a top 15 crootin ranking but we’re just getting owned on the trail. Particularly in GA. We aren’t getting anyone from FL either. Not plucking a Lawson, Adams, C Davis etc like we used to.

Used to battle anyone for top GA guys. Now we’re clearly behind bama, UGA, Clemson, FSU. Lose guys to LSU, UT, Michigan, Ohio St. Richt taking whatever scraps we used to get in S FL. Not good. Hell we even battling for bama scraps in AL.

My main concern is getting EJ back in the fold and our beloved bball crootin.

This is definitely a Boog b-ball crootin Thread too. Maybe @jhead34382 can come in here and drop some nuggets. Gotta think the whole college b-ball crootin scene is on hold for a little bit though. Not just the Boogs

 

[Denim Vest]

This is definitely a Boog b-ball crootin Thread too. Maybe @jhead34382 can come in here and drop some nuggets. Gotta think the whole college b-ball crootin scene is on hold for a little bit though. Not just the Boogs

As I alluded to in the bball thread he told me he’d stop by soon.

My travels on the net suggest EJ doesn’t have another school picked out yet so I’m hopeful there. Can probably forget about C Brown and Hagans in 19 but we’re in on a lot of other lesser but still studly guys.

Did find an update on Tony Jones. Was an article about the HC at Oakland saying he’s confident TJ is clean. Guessing that bridge has been burned but would be great to get him back on the trail for us.

 

[L I G E R]

Edit - @L I G E R , why the change in opinion of Gatewood?

https://auburn.forums.rivals.com/th...he-1-qb-if-not-1-overall-player-right.212146/

3 Main Reasons:

1) His dumbass HS coach who gives him half the snaps and 8-10 passes per game doesn't lend itself to someone who will be ready to play early at a program like Auburn who will only have lightly-recruited Malik on the roster by his RS Freshman or Sophomore year.

2) Gus is laughably bad with his approach to developing young QBs. Pinning your hopes on a kid who threw 8-10 passes per game in HS, who probably won't be allowed to do anything but run the zone read his freshman year because said HC is a complete dumbass, doesn't seem like a winning strategy for development. I'm not sold on him ever fully grasping the QB position at an SEC Championship level because of the ignorance of his HS and college HCs.

3) Any time you have the chance to land a program-changer like Justin Fields, not only for his future on-field play, but also for the positive impact he would have current recruiting class, you MUST take advantage of it. The kid is the closest thing to Cam Newton we've been in the Top 2 on since, well, CAM. Not only did we fvcking miss... AGAIN. We let the kid go to our arguably BIGGEST GAT DAMN RIVAL... AGAIN.

If we TRULY gave a shit about competing for championships in the Saban and Kirby eras, we'd have done whatever it took to land him. Not doing so told me we haven't learned shit from years of obvious reality checks (due to missing on elite QBs) and told me everything I needed to know about our commitment to winning moving forward.

Fvck. Gus.

 

[cookedw]

3 Main Reasons:

1) His dumbass HS coach who gives him half the snaps and 8-10 passes per game doesn't lend itself to someone who will be ready to play early at a program like Auburn who will only have lightly-recruited Malik on the roster by his RS Freshman or Sophomore year.

2) Gus is laughably bad with his approach to developing young QBs. Pinning your hopes on a kid who threw 8-10 passes per game in HS, who probably won't be allowed to do anything but run the zone read his freshman year because said HC is a complete dumbass, doesn't seem like a winning strategy for development. I'm not sold on him ever fully grasping the QB position at an SEC Championship level because of the ignorance of his HS and college HCs.

3) Any time you have the chance to land a program-changer like Justin Fields, not only for his future on-field play, but also for the positive impact he would have current recruiting class, you MUST take advantage of it. The kid is the closest thing to Cam Newton we've been in the Top 2 on since, well, CAM. Not only did we fvcking miss... AGAIN. We let the kid go to our arguably BIGGEST GAT DAMN RIVAL... AGAIN.

If we TRULY gave a shit about competing for championships in the Saban and Kirby eras, we'd have done whatever it took to land him. Not doing so told me we haven't learned shit from years of obvious reality checks (due to missing on elite QBs) and told me everything I needed to know about our commitment to winning moving forward.

Fvck. Gus.

So really, nothing has changed on your opinion of Gatewood's talent level. You still think he is an elite stud.

It is and will always be that Gus is still the head coach. Which I can't argue with.

 

[L I G E R]

So really, nothing has changed on your opinion of Gatewood's talent level. You still think he is an elite stud.

It is and will always be that Gus is still the head coach. Which I can't argue with.

Absolutely nothing has changed as far as how I feel about Gatewood’s talent and athleticism. Sadly, with the way he has been used the past 2 seasons in HS and the way Gus will use him his freshman season, he will come nowhere close to reaching his potential as a passer by the time we need him to, IMO.

I was one of the very first members of the Gatewood bandwagon and that will never change. He’s just going to be supremely stunted in his development as a passer he will be playing catch-up until well into his 3rd year on campus.

High risk/high reward kid who will probably be the only other option outside of a lightly recruited 3* who isn’t being given an opportunity to develop as a passer either this year.

Much less favorable situation to be in than signing a much more sure thing like Fields and allowing them to sort it out in practice. If it didn’t work at QB for Gatewood, and Fields became what we thought he was, Gatewood could be a dominant, future NFL TE for us in the mold of a better Uzomah.

 

[cookedw]

Absolutely nothing has changed as far as how I feel about Gatewood’s talent and athleticism. Sadly, with the way he has been used the past 2 seasons in HS and the way Gus will use him his freshman season, he will come nowhere close to reaching his potential as a passer by the time we need him to, IMO.

I was one of the very first members of the Gatewood bandwagon and that will never change. He’s just going to be supremely stunted in his development as a passer he will be playing catch-up until well into his 3rd year on campus.

High risk/high reward kid who will probably be the only other option outside of a lightly recruited 3* who isn’t being given an opportunity to develop as a passer either this year.

Much less favorable situation to be in than signing a much more sure thing like Fields and allowing them to sort it out in practice. If it didn’t work at QB for Gatewood, and Fields became what we thought he was, Gatewood could be a dominant, future NFL TE for us in the mold of a better Uzomah.

But you thought Gatewood would lead us to glory as a QB, long before you ever knew who Fields was:

"Either way, it will be fun to watch him in O&B. We will win multiple SEC titles with him and probably another natty."

 

[MomentInTheSun]

But you thought Gatewood would lead us to glory as a QB, long before you ever knew who Fields was:

"Either way, it will be fun to watch him in O&B. We will win multiple SEC titles with him and probably another natty."

Interesting development. People certainly have right to adjust and change their opinions. But those are some strongly positive words

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

Do you think our QB/RB recruiting is on par with our rivals, or on par with a program that expects to compete for national championships each year moving forward?

Part-time ATH Gatewood (who won't be developed into running the full offense for at least 2-3 years under Gus's dumbass "zone read only" approach to bringing along young QBs) and some no-name backup plan with zero offers from championship programs just ain't cutting it.

There's only so many years of misses you can excuse before someone(s) on staff needs to be punched in the face.

One Coynis Miller and one Trey Hill, plus some other lowly recruited backup plans, does not a good OL and DL class make. It would actually be pretty terrible.

I legit hate Gus for his HS QB recruiting and his approach to signing OL and DL. Basically zero planning, zero long-term vision, and zero "at whatever cost necessary" commitment to signing elite studs at the 3 most important positions for our program. Damnit.

This is all correct.

 

[Nay Nee. Nate]

Love watching grown men argue back and forth about recruits that they have never seen practice or play in person. Yes, I know some of you guys have watched him on TAY VEE before. With that said, I will now go put my cork on my fork so I can eat some spaghetti without hurting myself. Have a nice day fellow crootin, tards.

Sincerely,

Nay Nee. Nate.

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

This is where you and I disagree. I don't think with our current QB/RB blows at all. I think we did quite well there.

I think we can still land a very good DL and OL class, depending on who we close with.

Not sure on CB. Im hoping we take that JUCO kid originally from Prattville (that left Michigan).

Gatewood is a potential stud. It appears that he may be starting this season since he has almost as many passes to date as any previous season total. I'll give it a B- since the 2nd QB is apparently a complete scrub.

RB - ASA is solid, Shivers is a waste of a scholly, and there's no 2nd true RB in the class. With our lack of talented depth, that's a C+ recruiting job at best.

OL - Which OTs will Auburn land?

DL - Feel free to elaborate on how elite the OBBERN DL Class will be.

 

[L I G E R]

Gatewood has attempted 75 passes in 6 games.

This is our "linchpin" QB recruit in the class.

lolz

But you thought Gatewood would lead us to glory as a QB, long before you ever knew who Fields was:

"Either way, it will be fun to watch him in O&B. We will win multiple SEC titles with him and probably another natty."

Things change, Mox.

I was terribly wrong for not factoring in his HS coach's personnel decisions and our HC's approach to freshman QB development.

I own that.

 

[cookedw]

Gatewood is a potential stud. It appears that he may be starting this season since he has almost as many passes to date as any previous season total. I'll give it a B- since the 2nd QB is apparently a complete scrub.

RB - ASA is solid, Shivers is a waste of a scholly, and there's no 2nd true RB in the class. With our lack of talented depth, that's a C+ recruiting job at best.

OL - Which OTs will Auburn land?

DL - Feel free to elaborate on how elite the OBBERN DL Class will be.

I have already answered this, but I guess I can do it again.

QB/RB - We just disagree in opinion on this.

Now for OL/DL, I said we could land very DL/OL classes, depending on how we close.

OL - We need to get Wynnom. Would like to add one more good OT, like Tatore.

DL - First part is we must get Miller. That would give us two top notch DTs. Then need to add Jibunar and Oladele. Would like to add one more hybrid player (can play DE or DT).

 

[cookedw]

Gatewood has attempted 75 passes in 6 games.

This is our "linchpin" QB recruit in the class.

lolz

He's toying with HS defenses as a freshman and sophomore.

Dude moves just like Cam, has dominant size, and a howitzer for an arm.

I assume he will be Top 10 overall at the very least. Or perhaps the rankings services will be silly and list him as the 6th or 7th best dual threat QB.


Either way, it will be fun to watch him in O&B. We will win multiple SEC titles with him and probably another natty.

You haven't watched his highlights. The things he does as a freshman and sophomore against HS juniors and seniors is bordering on unfair.

Kid is dominant and the coach is probably being respectful to an older, seasoned returning starting senior QB by having them split time.

 

[L I G E R]

Odd troll considering I've already conceded defeat and wrongness for my initial opinion based on information from 2.5 seasons ago.

I watched his freshman and sophomore highlights. I was unaware of the split-time approach his HS coach would be taking. I was overzealous, premature, and assumptive regarding his development and experience. I believed he would have 2 more full seasons as "the guy".

I was wrong. I formally apologize to all boog nation for believing we had very nice things.

 

[Dale Yeah]

I've gotta say, Gatewood being our only QB commit scares me. Not saying he can't be the guy and I think he's a great talent and could make an impact on the field somewhere. I just don't think theirs anyway you can project what kind QB he'll be right now. We havn't seen near enough to for sure say he will be a stud at that position. Also, as @L I G E R said earlier, with his limited experience and coaching compared to others I don't see how Gus is someone we can trust to develop him.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Odd troll considering I've already conceded defeat and wrongness for my initial opinion based on information from 2.5 seasons ago.

I watched his freshman and sophomore highlights. I was unaware of the split-time approach his HS coach would be taking. I was overzealous, premature, and assumptive regarding his development and experience. I believed he would have 2 more full seasons as "the guy".

I was wrong. I formally apologize to all boog nation for believing we had very nice things.

I don’t think anyone is trolling anyone

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

I have already answered this, but I guess I can do it again.

QB/RB - We just disagree in opinion on this.

Now for OL/DL, I said we could land very DL/OL classes, depending on how we close.

OL - We need to get Wynnom. Would like to add one more good OT, like Tatore.

DL - First part is we must get Miller. That would give us two top notch DTs. Then need to add Jibunar and Oladele. Would like to add one more hybrid player (can play DE or DT).

RB - So you think Shivers is worth a scholly and we don't need a 2nd true RB?
QB - What about the 2nd QB commit has you fired up?
OL - Yes, landing an OT is a need. Landing a great OT would be nicer. Landing 2 would be fantastic. I'll believe we do it when I see it.
DL - Yes, again, landing studs would be great. Who is the 2nd top notch DT? Newkirk? Maybe but he's not someone I'm crowing about.

 

[L I G E R]

I don’t think anyone is trolling anyone

ok

thanks for the clarification in tronzing

 

[MomentInTheSun]

I don’t understand the Shaun Shivers hate. He’s a really compact, thick muscular kid. You don’t need to be tall to play RB

 

[cookedw]

RB - So you think Shivers is worth a scholly and we don't need a 2nd true RB?
QB - What about the 2nd QB commit has you fired up?
OL - Yes, landing an OT is a need. Landing a great OT would be nicer. Landing 2 would be fantastic. I'll believe we do it when I see it.
DL - Yes, again, landing studs would be great. Who is the 2nd top notch DT? Newkirk? Maybe but he's not someone I'm crowing about.

RB - yes on Shivers. I would love to ado Peirce, but adding a 2nd RB isn't a bid need, unless both KJ and KP go pro.

QB - my opinion is more to do with Gatewood. Curry seems like he may be a good player, but he isn't really factoring into my opinion.

DT - yes on Newkirk. I think he is a stud.

But as I stated before, it depends on how we close. Which means we could miss on some guys we need.

 

[cookedw]

No clue if it is related at all to Miller, but Bama just offered a "fast rising" 2 star DT.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

ok

thanks for the clarification in tronzing

You’re welcome, I guess. It’s not trolling if someone is literally just asking you why your opinion has drastically changed. You answered and everyone is moving on. No need to get all dramatic

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

RB - yes on Shivers. I would love to ado Peirce, but adding a 2nd RB isn't a bid need, unless both KJ and KP go pro.

QB - my opinion is more to do with Gatewood. Curry seems like he may be a good player, but he isn't really factoring into my opinion.

DT - yes on Newkirk. I think he is a stud.

But as I stated before, it depends on how we close. Which means we could miss on some guys we need.

RB recruiting has nothing to do with next year, or shouldn't. We need to bring in 2 studs as our current starters are average (at best) and we only seem to have 1 possible SEC RB behind them.
QB - I agree that Gatewood could proved to be good or better. With our needs though he alone doesn't make a quality QB class.
DT - May end up fine here IF we land Miller.
DE - Lot to be desired here, especially with our limited rush end options at present.

 

[L I G E R]

You’re welcome, I guess. It’s not trolling if someone is literally just asking you why your opinion has drastically changed. You answered and everyone is moving on. No need to get all dramatic

Asking here then bumping a thread 1.5 year old thread on the boog board is trolling, imo.

https://auburn.forums.rivals.com/th...erall-player-right.212146/page-2#post-4451800

 

[Dale Yeah]

I don't know if he's correct on this or not but according to J Lee were not really going after dalvin cooks little brother. Apparently he listed us in his top 3 or 5. Also has stated that he's interested in fsu and they are one of his top schools but he'd rather not follow in his brothers footsteps. Why would we not being putting the full court press on this kid?