OT: Boog hut hut coaching search
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We aren't that lucky.
Please God let me be wrong.
Please God let me be wrong.
We’re gonna run Miss St on Saturday and all this new huthut corch talk will be put to bed. People of the internet will be regaling us with tales of ‘just how close’ we were to Gus getting canned, etc.
It seems it’s headed in that direction. Might as well keep all plane tracking info in one place
oh god. These are so painful
Sounds like the “men who never lose” lost again.
auburn is all about mediocrity now. The BOT doesn’t give two shits about football.
auburn is all about mediocrity now. The BOT doesn’t give two shits about football.
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I don't know how Gus does it but every time the chatter grows a day or two later people have determined that he's too expensive to fire.
It's amazing to me
It's amazing to me
Unless they are waiting to a more appropriate time to announce it. It’s not just about Gus. It’s about his replacement too. Patience grasshoppers.
How hard is it to find a coach with a losing record?
For Your Eyes Only: An inside look at Auburn football
By PHILLIP MARSHALL
For Your Eyes Only, normally posted on Friday, is posted today instead to share current information on Auburn football.
No decision has been made about Gus Malzahn’s future as Auburn’s head coach, but serious discussions among decision-makers have been ongoing for two weeks or more. It is no secret that a significant number of those people are convinced that it is time for Auburn to move on. Their number has grown over the course of the season, but there is certainly no sense of unanimity.
Will those seeking change prevail? There really is no way to know at this point. Anyone who says a decision has been made one way or the other is just wrong. President Jay Gogue has a long-standing policy that no such decisions will be made until the season in question is over. There is no indication he will waver from that.
The dysfunction in the Auburn football program can’t be denied. Lack of cohesion on the coaching staff is a major issue. Malzahn’s inability to connect with Auburn people in general is an issue. That’s OK as long as you’re winning big. It becomes a problem when you need supporters and haven’t cultivated them. The ability to cultivate supporters and to connect with Auburn people saved Tommy Tuberville from being fired in December of 2003.
Malzahn’s back-and-forth on calling plays, not calling plays, making game plans, not making game plans has left some in important positions wondering how his program can be consistent doing things in that manner. He came to Auburn because of his offensive prowess, but the offense has been inconsistent for the better part of six seasons now.
Auburn players on both sides of the ball like and respect Malzahn, but some offensive underclassmen are quietly contemplating whether their futures would be better-served in another program or by looking to the NFL Draft. Transferring is hard to do, especially if you love where you are. Most Auburn players do. But the coming rule that will allow one-time transfers with no penalty will make leaving much easier.
All those things, in addition to the good and bad on the field, will go into the final decision, whatever it is. Malzahn’s hefty buyout won’t keep something from happening, but it certainly causes heartburn for some people to contemplate.
Will the outcome of Saturday’s game at Mississippi State have an impact?
It shouldn’t, but it could. If Malzahn is the man to take Auburn forward, losing one game at Mississippi State shouldn’t change that. If he’s not the man to take Auburn forward, winning one game shouldn’t change that. That’s my opinion, and my opinion doesn’t count. Is it the opinion of those who count?
Will the December signing day being close at hand make a difference?
No. It won’t and it shouldn’t. You can’t make long-term decisions for short-term benefit. It’s even harder to make that case when Auburn is ranked No. 42 in the latest 247Sports Composite.
The uncertainty is already causing considerable difficulty for coaches as they try to recruit. If Malzahn is going to remain, they desperately need for someone to say it. No one has, but they shouldn’t have to wait much longer to find out which way this will go.
When will a decision be made?
I would guess Sunday or Monday. I’m assuming here that, if Malzahn is staying put, there will be some kind of statement made. I could be wrong about that. Clearly, if the decision is made to move on, that will be huge news and will be announced.
Should Auburn make a move, who will it go after as a replacement?
I could make a list of names I would see as top candidates, but it would just be speculation. I’m not going to engage in that kind of speculation as long as Malzahn remains as head coach. Every coaching change is a roll of the dice, regardless of who is chosen. Remember when Tom Herman and Scott Frost were the coaches everybody had to have?
Where does athletics director Allen Greene stand?
Greene is notoriously tight-lipped. He’s said nothing publicly. He has made calls to take the pulse of important people inside and outside of the administration. There are places where the athletics director is the final decision-maker. Greene is not in that position. His opinion will be heard, but the real action will be above his head.
Is Auburn committed to doing what it takes to compete for championships?
One of the problems that Auburn faces is that only a limited number of higher-ups in the administration have a good grasp on what it takes. You can’t spend the least and make the most. You can’t ride buses when everybody else is riding airplanes. You can’t have the head football coach answering to people who do not understand. From facilities to travel to academics to recruiting and more, you have to do things in a first-class manner. If you don’t, it shows.
In word and in desire, Auburn is committed. In reality, it’s going to take more of a commitment than what I see from the outside.
What impact does all this have on players?
Like most people their age, players spend a large amount of time on social media. They know what’s going on. Are they distracted? I’m told they have had surprisingly focused and spirited practices the past two days, but whether that will carry over to Saturday night in Starkville is a question that can’t be answered until they play.
What are the odds a change is made?
My opinion changes almost daily, depending on to whom I have most recently talked. Today, I’d say 50-50 if Auburn wins Saturday night and 80-20 if it doesn’t. I might feel differently tomorrow. As I said above, I don’t believe what happens Saturday night should matter one way or the other, and maybe it won’t. But the outcome will give ammunition to somebody.
How hard is all this on coaches?
It’s hard, but regardless of the outcome, Malzahn will leave Auburn having been paid more than $50 million. I really feel worse for assistant coaches who wonder if they’ll even have jobs at Auburn, and their wives and children. They make plenty of money and they understood the business when they got into it, but that doesn’t make uprooting families any easier.
Who will make the final call?
Gogue is the final authority on hiring and firing. The Board of Trustees can make its feelings, whatever they are, known and make a recommendation. Gogue can take advice from whoever he chooses. He can delegate if chooses. Two years ago, when Malzahn’s job was in jeopardy, former president Steven Leath chose to take the advice of trustee Raymond Harbert.
And that’s where things stand. What the outcome will be, we don’t know.
By PHILLIP MARSHALL
For Your Eyes Only, normally posted on Friday, is posted today instead to share current information on Auburn football.
No decision has been made about Gus Malzahn’s future as Auburn’s head coach, but serious discussions among decision-makers have been ongoing for two weeks or more. It is no secret that a significant number of those people are convinced that it is time for Auburn to move on. Their number has grown over the course of the season, but there is certainly no sense of unanimity.
Will those seeking change prevail? There really is no way to know at this point. Anyone who says a decision has been made one way or the other is just wrong. President Jay Gogue has a long-standing policy that no such decisions will be made until the season in question is over. There is no indication he will waver from that.
The dysfunction in the Auburn football program can’t be denied. Lack of cohesion on the coaching staff is a major issue. Malzahn’s inability to connect with Auburn people in general is an issue. That’s OK as long as you’re winning big. It becomes a problem when you need supporters and haven’t cultivated them. The ability to cultivate supporters and to connect with Auburn people saved Tommy Tuberville from being fired in December of 2003.
Malzahn’s back-and-forth on calling plays, not calling plays, making game plans, not making game plans has left some in important positions wondering how his program can be consistent doing things in that manner. He came to Auburn because of his offensive prowess, but the offense has been inconsistent for the better part of six seasons now.
Auburn players on both sides of the ball like and respect Malzahn, but some offensive underclassmen are quietly contemplating whether their futures would be better-served in another program or by looking to the NFL Draft. Transferring is hard to do, especially if you love where you are. Most Auburn players do. But the coming rule that will allow one-time transfers with no penalty will make leaving much easier.
All those things, in addition to the good and bad on the field, will go into the final decision, whatever it is. Malzahn’s hefty buyout won’t keep something from happening, but it certainly causes heartburn for some people to contemplate.
Will the outcome of Saturday’s game at Mississippi State have an impact?
It shouldn’t, but it could. If Malzahn is the man to take Auburn forward, losing one game at Mississippi State shouldn’t change that. If he’s not the man to take Auburn forward, winning one game shouldn’t change that. That’s my opinion, and my opinion doesn’t count. Is it the opinion of those who count?
Will the December signing day being close at hand make a difference?
No. It won’t and it shouldn’t. You can’t make long-term decisions for short-term benefit. It’s even harder to make that case when Auburn is ranked No. 42 in the latest 247Sports Composite.
The uncertainty is already causing considerable difficulty for coaches as they try to recruit. If Malzahn is going to remain, they desperately need for someone to say it. No one has, but they shouldn’t have to wait much longer to find out which way this will go.
When will a decision be made?
I would guess Sunday or Monday. I’m assuming here that, if Malzahn is staying put, there will be some kind of statement made. I could be wrong about that. Clearly, if the decision is made to move on, that will be huge news and will be announced.
Should Auburn make a move, who will it go after as a replacement?
I could make a list of names I would see as top candidates, but it would just be speculation. I’m not going to engage in that kind of speculation as long as Malzahn remains as head coach. Every coaching change is a roll of the dice, regardless of who is chosen. Remember when Tom Herman and Scott Frost were the coaches everybody had to have?
Where does athletics director Allen Greene stand?
Greene is notoriously tight-lipped. He’s said nothing publicly. He has made calls to take the pulse of important people inside and outside of the administration. There are places where the athletics director is the final decision-maker. Greene is not in that position. His opinion will be heard, but the real action will be above his head.
Is Auburn committed to doing what it takes to compete for championships?
One of the problems that Auburn faces is that only a limited number of higher-ups in the administration have a good grasp on what it takes. You can’t spend the least and make the most. You can’t ride buses when everybody else is riding airplanes. You can’t have the head football coach answering to people who do not understand. From facilities to travel to academics to recruiting and more, you have to do things in a first-class manner. If you don’t, it shows.
In word and in desire, Auburn is committed. In reality, it’s going to take more of a commitment than what I see from the outside.
What impact does all this have on players?
Like most people their age, players spend a large amount of time on social media. They know what’s going on. Are they distracted? I’m told they have had surprisingly focused and spirited practices the past two days, but whether that will carry over to Saturday night in Starkville is a question that can’t be answered until they play.
What are the odds a change is made?
My opinion changes almost daily, depending on to whom I have most recently talked. Today, I’d say 50-50 if Auburn wins Saturday night and 80-20 if it doesn’t. I might feel differently tomorrow. As I said above, I don’t believe what happens Saturday night should matter one way or the other, and maybe it won’t. But the outcome will give ammunition to somebody.
How hard is all this on coaches?
It’s hard, but regardless of the outcome, Malzahn will leave Auburn having been paid more than $50 million. I really feel worse for assistant coaches who wonder if they’ll even have jobs at Auburn, and their wives and children. They make plenty of money and they understood the business when they got into it, but that doesn’t make uprooting families any easier.
Who will make the final call?
Gogue is the final authority on hiring and firing. The Board of Trustees can make its feelings, whatever they are, known and make a recommendation. Gogue can take advice from whoever he chooses. He can delegate if chooses. Two years ago, when Malzahn’s job was in jeopardy, former president Steven Leath chose to take the advice of trustee Raymond Harbert.
And that’s where things stand. What the outcome will be, we don’t know.
All of this KIND of reminds me of the Doug Barfield days except for the huge money issue which seems to be the most important one. All of the inside bickering, Allen Green coming across as another Lee Hayley knock off & I knew for sure that current players were telling recruits not to come to Boog U. Meanwhile we had just ended an 11 game losing streak in that God awful BEMC to the neckersons across the state combined with 9 years of losing to them in the huthut. Truly dark days to be a Boog.
Footnote: When that basketball streak finally ended, all of us engineering nerds went to the cozy little computer center, printed off all the paper & rolled the inside instead of going to Toomers.
Footnote: When that basketball streak finally ended, all of us engineering nerds went to the cozy little computer center, printed off all the paper & rolled the inside instead of going to Toomers.
Read a snippet on a Hokie board where they think Gus is getting canned this year and they are all giddy over getting him. Please let it happen. I would love to be a boog hut hut fan again.
Gotta an ex roommate that drives me MAD about all this crap. Constantly calling & texting & wanting me to “educate him” about it. Told him a dozen times or more that IDNGAS & he still doesn’t get it. Hate to say I sent him a link to tbb & told him to sign up & then promptly blocked him. Finally told him that if all we had in common was Boog huthut, we had nothing to talk about in some words I never use on the Greg.
@autigers07 seems to be hinting that the Miami heart throb Mario will be the next head Boog
I would be excited to boog again
I would be excited to boog again
IF it’s Mario... it’s huge for many reasons... but the most important reason is, if various insiders are to be believed, from piecing together their stories, Mario is Rane’s third choice... which means multiple factions were able to come together and compromise and find common ground... and which also mean’s Rane’s attempts to get a guy who would feel more beholden to him, and allow him more influence, failed
I trust Mario to be our best chance to layout a plan and vision for the program and actually be able to sell people on it and get them pulling together - to whatever extent Boog nation is even capable
I’ve said forever that things have to get so painful that people finally put aside their egos and are willing to cede power as their last resort... hiring Mario would be the closest sign of our lifetimes - or at least our adult lifetimes - that it was happening
AU in 2020 has to have tireless salesmen to compete. You have to work that much harder than everyone else to be good here.
Mario is that man. I won’t believe it until I see him and his wife greeted by screaming men at the airport.
Mario is that man. I won’t believe it until I see him and his wife greeted by screaming men at the airport.
I hate to be such a killjoy but the HC of Oregon who won a Rose Bowl last year is gonna come to Boogville?
I hate to be such a killjoy but the HC of Oregon who won a Rose Bowl last year is gonna come to Boogville?
I understand everyone’s doubts but they are only paying Mario 2.5 a year. We’ll give him that much to call off spring practice every year.
Yeah we could beat that but I just assume Oregon can pay what is needed to keep him. I guess maybe they just aren’t willing to pay an outlandish amount for a huthut corch like us.
I’ll be okay with MC or Freeze or Napier. Or most anybody else for that matter. All that matters to me is that Gus is going to be gone soon. I’m ready to celebrate that news.
Just want to throw out there that I still think we should look at Fleck.
I like Cristobal, Campbell and Fleck the most.
I'd be happy with Freeze, but don't think Boogville would hire him.
I don't fully understand the Napier appeal.
I do not want Sark. If the USC job drives you to alcoholism, you won't last a month in Boogville.
If everyone turns us down hire Bill Clark. That man understands organization and program-building. It wouldn't win the press conference, it probably wouldn't be a quick fix, BUT I think he would be a great long-term choice.
I like Cristobal, Campbell and Fleck the most.
I'd be happy with Freeze, but don't think Boogville would hire him.
I don't fully understand the Napier appeal.
I do not want Sark. If the USC job drives you to alcoholism, you won't last a month in Boogville.
If everyone turns us down hire Bill Clark. That man understands organization and program-building. It wouldn't win the press conference, it probably wouldn't be a quick fix, BUT I think he would be a great long-term choice.
Gus corchin for his life out there with the fake go for it fake QB punt but actually throw it but can’t make the catch.
Somebody just asked me if I could see a 3-2 final. I said I pray to all things holy it’s 4-3.
It’s startling going straight from the majesty of BRUCE and the HYGs to Gus and this shitass huthut program.
Can you tweet this so I can retweet it?
I don't even care if we hire someone that I think is worse than Gusbot. I just want to love boog hut hut again.
Didn’t watch even ONE PLAY. Only regret is not seeing Tank run wild after looking at stats. Both of my sons & their gals were here & that’s much more important, although we would have all watched it together years gone by.
It's over gang. For better or worse, it's over.
If we can avoid hiring Steele full time then we just might make a good decision.
