Hoover vs Pinson

[WDE_Tarp]

Biggest takeway - I can see why Pat Nix is no longer an OC in college football.

Interesting. I didn't watch any of this game today, but I did get to watch some film from last year and they absolutely abused people with their play calling. They did have stud WRs last year though so it really opened up everything they did. I think they lost most of those guys though.

Nix is going to get the Vestavia job but I know some people think he will return to college as soon as his younger son graduates.

 

[wcw3au1]

George and Haslewood said he’s the best QB in the country. Josh Niblett said on film he is flawless. Should we listen to players who play with him and real coaches, or shall we listen to assholes on the internet? I think I’ll go with college coaches who offer, coaches who broke down his film and players who play with him. I’m sure you know what the fvck your talking about though. Lol

And a lot of people say JS is the best QB in the country playing college football. Not sure what you’re arguing with. If you saw something in the game today that made you think he’s a QB that will put us over the top and win Nattys that’s cool. I didn’t see it today. Lol.

 

[wcw3au1]

What sunshiney spin?

Did I guarantee he would beat Bama/UGA? He is the type/level of QB we need to beat UGA/Bama and compete for titles, IMO. And he showed that level of talent today

Other factors come into play to accomplish all the above.

Nick Marshall is a perfect example of this. QB matters, but it isn't all the matters (beat both one year and lost to both the next)

Slow down cookie. I didn’t say you guaranteed anything. But you said you saw something in him today that made you believe he would beat the best teams in college and win championships at AU. I don’t see how anybody saw that today. But you and the expert did so I’m sure I’m wrong.

 

[Gran_Polla]

Slow down cookie. I didn’t say you guaranteed anything. But you said you saw something in him today that made you believe he would beat the best teams in college and win championships at AU. I don’t see how anybody saw that today. But you and the expert did so I’m sure I’m wrong.

If you look for that in 1 game then you’re ignorant. Don’t take that personal, because most are ignorant who post on boards.

 

[Gran_Polla]

Slow down cookie. I didn’t say you guaranteed anything. But you said you saw something in him today that made you believe he would beat the best teams in college and win championships at AU. I don’t see how anybody saw that today. But you and the expert did so I’m sure I’m wrong.

I never said I did in this game. I saw some good throws by him. I watched him last year and I’m not a stupid mfer who believes 1 game tells the whole story of a team or a player.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

I only saw like 20 minutes of it but i thought he looked good. Threw two dimes in a row on that 80 yd TD drive and threw some other ropes as well. I thought it was obvious that he’s got the arm strength and accuracy/touch to merit his ranking

 

[L I G E R]

I’m still stuck on the dual threat monster who can supplement our running game and open passing lanes.

Pair that with our current defense and I think we are back to winning titles.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Also, the idea of perfect footwork is just kinda overrated now. Tom Brady stands flat footed in the pocket. Cam Newton still throws off his back foot like a middle schooler. I think a lot of coaches are happy to let talented guys throw with how they’re comfortable.

 

[wcw3au1]

If you look for that in 1 game then you’re ignorant. Don’t take that personal, because most are ignorant who post on boards.

I didn’t look for it in one game. Cook said he saw it in one game. Read slower??

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Javarius Johnson just broke a screen into a 60 yarder. Woulda been a TD if a top 5 overall recruit wasn’t playing safety

 

[cookedw]

Javarius Johnson just broke a screen into a 60 yarder. Woulda been a TD if a top 5 overall recruit wasn’t playing safety

Haselwood took a great angle and is not slow.

Haselwood doesn't come off the field

 

[cookedw]

I didn’t look for it in one game. Cook said he saw it in one game. Read slower??

I saw what he and MITS saw. I saw what he is capable of and his ability. I saw his ability to extend a play and throw some darts. I saw him make some great throws that were caught and dropped.

But I agree it wasn't all on point, especially in the 1st quarter.

I also saw a QB playing for a team that was WAY outmatched and less talented (and depth) than their opponent.

So the ability I actually saw makes think he is that type of QB.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Haselwood took a great angle and is not slow.

Haselwood doesn't come off the field

Johnson is definitely underrated. You can see why he has a Boog offer. Ryan Davis clone

 

[Fillup Marschell]

I’m still stuck on the dual threat monster who can supplement our running game and open passing lanes.

Pair that with our current defense and I think we are back to winning titles.

AU and their fans are too racist to consistently support phenom black QBs.

 

[cookedw]

Johnson has 9 catches for 150 yards so far in the first half

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Johnson has 9 catches for 150 yards so far in the first half

The Bama QB commit has a really good arm

 

[cookedw]

The Bama QB commit has a really good arm

He has gotten away with some bad throws. That last TD was a terrible throw, behind the WR, that got tipped up by the WR and the other WR was luckily behind him. His stats will look better than he has actually played, IMO.

His TD throw to the worsham kid was a very good throw

He has pretty good touch on some throws but way off on others, but has a pretty strong arm

Good QB, but nothing that stands out based on that 1st half. JMO

 

[charlie5]

Johnson looks just like Calvin Ridley to me

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Javarius Johnson is really impressive. Super quick feet. Cuts on a dime and has crazy acceleration to get yards after receiving the ball. Big fan gang. Especially when you see him relative to the quality of guys he’s playing with and against

 

[MomentInTheSun]

They’re really blowing this Worsham kid. I know he’s a junior. But if I didn’t know who was committed to who and who was ranked what, then I’d think Johnson was the stud. Think Johnson is too tiny to ever be a deep threat, but he looks to have elite potential as a slot guy

 

[MomentInTheSun]

So Pappoe is now playing on espnu right now as well

 

[L I G E R]

They’re really blowing this Worsham kid. I know he’s a junior. But if I didn’t know who was committed to who and who was ranked what, then I’d think Johnson was the stud. Think Johnson is too tiny to ever be a deep threat, but he looks to have elite potential as a slot guy

Worsham looks like the 2nd best WR on the field to me.

Kid is legit.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Worsham looks like the 2nd best WR on the field to me.

Kid is legit.

He’s good. Not sure I see him specializing in anything if that makes sense. He’s not fast enough to be a deep guy. Don’t see him as a quick guy either. He’s more of an athlete to me. Wouldn’t surprise me if Saban moves him to defense. But I’m just basing it off this game

 

[Gran_Polla]

Javarius Johnson just broke a screen into a 60 yarder. Woulda been a TD if a top 5 overall recruit wasn’t playing safety

He obviously lacks SEC speed and probably has terrible footwork.

 

[Gran_Polla]

I didn’t look for it in one game. Cook said he saw it in one game. Read slower??

I never said I was an expert. I simply quoted players and high school coaches, then I mentioned college offers. Read slower??

 

[cookedw]

That move by Johnson was just dirty

 

[L I G E R]

He obviously lacks SEC speed and probably has terrible footwork.

Snicker.

 

[cookedw]

Those last two passes were horrible by Bryant, but Johnson got up high to try to catch that last one behind him.

What were Johnson's finals stats? Did he break 200 yards?

 

[Gran_Polla]

Those last two passes were horrible by Bryant, but Johnson got up high to try to catch that last one behind him.

What were Johnson's finals stats? Did he break 200 yards?

Exact words from a coach 2 min ago on Tyson....”good high school QB, that’s it. Can’t believe Nick offered his ass.”

This coach played at bama.

 

[cookedw]

Exact words from a coach 2 min ago on Tyson....”good high school QB, that’s it. Can’t believe Nick offered his ass.”

This coach played at bama.

Will Bama factor in at all with Ashford since they have two commits this class and already a 2020 commit?

 

[Gran_Polla]

Will Bama factor in at all with Ashford since they have two commits this class and already a 2020 commit?

No

It’s clemson/Auburn battle. I’m scared when Clemson offers. Right now Auburn is sitting good, but as soon as Clemson offers I think Auburn will be 2nd. It certainly helps having George and Shed, but there are some factors I can’t put out there. Let’s just say Robby has someone close to him that is hard to deal with and it has pissed off some college coaches. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[wcw3au1]

I never said I was an expert. I simply quoted players and high school coaches, then I mentioned college offers. Read slower??

I’m not the one questioning and misrepresenting what you said nafdoog. You read slower and quit trying so hard.

 

[Gran_Polla]

I’m not the one questing and misrepresenting what you said nafdoog. You read slower and quit trying so hard.

Did you know I was goodfan too? I tell you what, you have to wake up real early to get one by you. Jesus Christ!

 

[Gran_Polla]

Will you call me 57fdj as well? That was me too. It would be very witty of you to do that.

 

[wcw3au1]

Did you know I was goodfan too? I tell you what, you have to wake up real early to get one by you. Jesus Christ!

Nafdoog was just my favorite.

 

[wcw3au1]

Will you call me 57fdj as well? That was me too. It would be very witty of you to do that.

Not trying to be witty. Just stated some facts. Your nafdoog persona was the only one you’ve mentioned that I remember.

 

[Gran_Polla]

I prefer you call me sgtmajoraubie, but if I go that route then I demand that you get off your ass when you address me and show the proper respect for a veteran.

 

[wcw3au1]

I prefer you call me sgtmajoraubie, but if I go that route then I demand that you get off your ass when you address me and show the proper respect for a veteran.

We’ve had a weird day when I respect you Polly.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

No

It’s clemson/Auburn battle. I’m scared when Clemson offers. Right now Auburn is sitting good, but as soon as Clemson offers I think Auburn will be 2nd. It certainly helps having George and Shed, but there are some factors I can’t put out there. Let’s just say Robby has someone close to him that is hard to deal with and it has pissed off some college coaches. I’ll leave it at that.

How does baseball play into all of this? Is he good enough to get drafted or play in college?

 

[WDE_Tarp]

Also, the idea of perfect footwork is just kinda overrated now. Tom Brady stands flat footed in the pocket. Cam Newton still throws off his back foot like a middle schooler. I think a lot of coaches are happy to let talented guys throw with how they’re comfortable.

I don't remember who was questioning his footwork but Bo Nix has the best footwork of any high school QB I have ever seen. That's really my only concern is that he's a product of doing everything exactly the right way. Obviously he is very accurate and has a decent arm, but he does the little things so well that it's hard for me to see him improving much in that category.