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Justin Fields

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I pray he never succeeds at football, not life, just football. Brother Shartpton is gonna help him become eligible. Typical!
 
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If Rev Al can be used to slime Georgia in a public forum...it'll be the first time I have ever supported Al Sharpton. This will be GLORIOUS if Georgia fights it...
 
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I hate the angle but think kids should be free to transfer at will between semesters if grades are where any incoming transfer would need to be.

So yeah to hell with the noise. Shouldn’t be necessary to begin with.

I like the SEC's policy of not restricting grad transfers, I wish the NCAA would just make that the rule. I also don't think schools should have the power (not sure if they still do) to not grant a transfer somewhere forcing a kid to sit out two years. I am however ok, with kids having to sit out a year if they transfer without graduating.
 
I like the SEC's policy of not restricting grad transfers, I wish the NCAA would just make that the rule. I also don't think schools should have the power (not sure if they still do) to not grant a transfer somewhere forcing a kid to sit out two years. I am however ok, with kids having to sit out a year if they transfer without graduating.
I was at that position about 7-8 years ago. Then the secondary market started taking off and coaches were bringing in kids left and right. At that point, I believe you have to cut the handcuffs.

Imagine a coach signing a kid out of high school, the kid rises to through the ranks and is sitting behind a senior going into his soph season. Senior graduates and he is capable and ready to take the reigns. Coach sees a can’t miss senior transfer with 2 years of eligibility left. The fans suddenly hate the backup and must have said transfer. Coach promises transfer he will start if he signs. Mr. Backup has been screwed left and right and lost his job without even a chance to compete. Hell he may be better than the transfer but will not be given the chance. He can stick it out and hope gets a chance senior year while hearing how he wasn’t worth a shit and was the reason they had to bring in a transfer. He can wait and grad transfer and hope someone remembers his HS highlight reel. He can go to a lower division, hope to play, and hope to sign somewhere his senior year. What he cannot do currently is enter the portal, a year or two out from his initial recruitment and try to land a job now without being forced to sit out a year and potentially have it all happen again. He just wants a real chance to compete for the job and is getting hosed each way.
 
I like the SEC's policy of not restricting grad transfers, I wish the NCAA would just make that the rule. I also don't think schools should have the power (not sure if they still do) to not grant a transfer somewhere forcing a kid to sit out two years. I am however ok, with kids having to sit out a year if they transfer without graduating.

I'm fine with all of this AND the new redshirt rule that makes it easier to avoid sitting out for a year. if they aren't playing in games this season they is no reason this season shouldn't count as their "missed year". As a fan, this goes against my every instinct. In almost every conceivable way it leaves me open to more heartache and puts Auburn in position to lose more players that it likely will need. But at some point you have to get over your own selfish needs and see the system sucks and is completely one sided. If we're going to start making HC's and coordinators sit out for a full year between switching jobs then maybe we can go back to the old way of doing things.

The truth is college sports is a massively flawed system that likely is going to implode on itself at some point. You've got "amateur" athletes in a multi billion $$ industry where the other "employees" are raking in millions. There isn't anything like this anywhere now. The system was built for a glorified version of high school sports and now its generating revenue that makes large companies blush. The only thing holding this system together is fans being tied to colleges and the money being tied to those fans loyalty. None of it makes any damn economic sense at all.
 
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I'm fine with all of this AND the new redshirt rule that makes it easier to avoid sitting out for a year. if they aren't playing in games this season they is no reason this season shouldn't count as their "missed year". As a fan, this goes against my every instinct. In almost every conceivable way it leaves me open to more heartache and puts Auburn in position to lose more players that it likely will need. But at some point you have to get over your own selfish needs and see the system sucks and is completely one sided. If we're going to start making HC's and coordinators sit out for a full year between switching jobs then maybe we can go back to the old way of doing things.

The truth is college sports is a massively flawed system that likely is going to implode on itself at some point. You've got "amateur" athletes in a multi billion $$ industry where the other "employees" are raking in millions. There isn't anything like this anywhere now. The system was built for a glorified version of high school sports and now its generating revenue that makes large companies blush. The only thing holding this system together is fans being tied to colleges and the money being tied to those fans loyalty. None of it makes any damn economic sense at all.
I don't believe college players should ever be paid. I believe there should be a farm system (like baseball) for athletes who have no interest in college. There should be no requirement to go to college. I believe colleges should only field players who want and value a college degree and are willing to play for free education and not whine that it is some form of slavery. The day they start paying college players a living salary, I'll be officially done with college athletics. I'm already a big NFL fan. I'll just turn all of my attention to that.

Now that I'm off of that soapbox, when there is a major coaching change (HC, OC, DC), I have no problem with athletes having the option to leave and play immediately somewhere else. The idea that these players come in as fans of a college is fantasy. They commit to systems and coaches that benefit their development. Maybe it would make schools try a little harder to keep some consistency in these key positions.
 
I don't believe college players should ever be paid. I believe there should be a farm system (like baseball) for athletes who have no interest in college. There should be no requirement to go to college. I believe colleges should only field players who want and value a college degree and are willing to play for free education and not whine that it is some form of slavery. The day they start paying college players a living salary, I'll be officially done with college athletics. I'm already a big NFL fan. I'll just turn all of my attention to that.

Now that I'm off of that soapbox, when there is a major coaching change (HC, OC, DC), I have no problem with athletes having the option to leave and play immediately somewhere else. The idea that these players come in as fans of a college is fantasy. They commit to systems and coaches that benefit their development. Maybe it would make schools try a little harder to keep some consistency in these key positions.
It's not a popular opinion with most but I have always felt the same way. 100% agree here bruh. Like Given
 
Why did he transfer anyway? Especially to Ohio state? Wouldn’t he of started this year? It’s not like auburn football and Gus are tearing it up. What will it take to get him fired? You guys are usually one of the top dogs in the sec, along with that other shit team in Alabama.
 
The problem with allowing kids to freely transfer wherever is it opens it up for coaches to kind of act like nfl GMs and just cut players if a better player is interested in transferring in. Could easily see guys like Urban and Saban “heavily pressuring” a back up to piss off to make the 85 limit. It already happens with recruiting. Would happen even more with free transfers
 
I don't believe college players should ever be paid. I believe there should be a farm system (like baseball) for athletes who have no interest in college. There should be no requirement to go to college. I believe colleges should only field players who want and value a college degree and are willing to play for free education and not whine that it is some form of slavery. The day they start paying college players a living salary, I'll be officially done with college athletics. I'm already a big NFL fan. I'll just turn all of my attention to that.

Now that I'm off of that soapbox, when there is a major coaching change (HC, OC, DC), I have no problem with athletes having the option to leave and play immediately somewhere else. The idea that these players come in as fans of a college is fantasy. They commit to systems and coaches that benefit their development. Maybe it would make schools try a little harder to keep some consistency in these key positions.

In an ideal world, football would have a league that served as a farm league that paid players. I agree with that 100%. College shouldn't be that league. But that's where we are right now. There isn't another legitimate, consistent path to the league without college. That's not CFB's fault by the way, that's the NFL not investing in it and not wanting to have to deal with it because CFB has done them a tremendous service at no cost and it's perfect for them.
 
In an ideal world, football would have a league that served as a farm league that paid players. I agree with that 100%. College shouldn't be that league. But that's where we are right now. There isn't another legitimate, consistent path to the league without college. That's not CFB's fault by the way, that's the NFL not investing in it and not wanting to have to deal with it because CFB has done them a tremendous service at no cost and it's perfect for them.

This is true, and to me the larger problem is that college football offers something a lot of these kids don’t value. I teach a lot of kids who would give their left arms to not have to take on the debt they’re about to take on to try and follow their dreams. Somehow we let the story be about the what 1% who make it to the league? A large percentage of the other 99% may have thought they were going to the league, but they didn’t. We allow the fact that coaches make so much to distract us from that, but in reality they’re going to get a degree that a non-athlete might go in the hole 100k or more for. In fact, if they redshirt they have a decent chance to get a masters for free as well (or if they’re willing to GA).

A lot of the money in college football comes from fanaticism. If there was a farm league and all the 4 and 5 star talent started going there instead of college football, I wouldn’t start watching it instead. I watch Auburn football because it’s Auburn. I know the NFL puts out a better product, but I rarely watch it and I wouldn’t even consider forking out the money I used to for boog football tickets.
 
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This is true, and to me the larger problem is that college football offers something a lot of these kids don’t value. I teach a lot of kids who would give their left arms to not have to take on the debt they’re about to take on to try and follow their dreams. Somehow we let the story be about the what 1% who make it to the league? A large percentage of the other 99% may have thought they were going to the league, but they didn’t. We allow the fact that coaches make so much to distract us from that, but in reality they’re going to get a degree that a non-athlete might go in the hole 100k or more for. In fact, if they redshirt they have a decent chance to get a masters for free as well (or if they’re willing to GA).

A lot of the money in college football comes from fanaticism. If there was a farm league and all the 4 and 5 star talent started going there instead of college football, I wouldn’t start watching it instead. I watch Auburn football because it’s Auburn. I know the NFL puts out a better product, but I rarely watch it and I wouldn’t even consider forking out the money I used to for boog football tickets.
I don’t think the free market would support a paid league of 4 and 5 stars either. The NFL would just have to put together a development league knowing it isn’t even going to break even. But I would still prefer that to happen than salaries in college. It wouldn’t bother me one bit if college football was all 3 stars and less who valued education and didn’t need corners cut and cheating (or centers of excellence) to remain eligible. I think you’d still find 4 and 5 stars here and there who value education and choose college over development leagues anyway...
 
Georgia better 'pologize. Otherwise the full force of tribalism is gonna descend upon Athens.

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I don’t think the free market would support a paid league of 4 and 5 stars either. The NFL would just have to put together a development league knowing it isn’t even going to break even. But I would still prefer that to happen than salaries in college. It wouldn’t bother me one bit if college football was all 3 stars and less who valued education and didn’t need corners cut and cheating (or centers of excellence) to remain eligible. I think you’d still find 4 and 5 stars here and there who value education and choose college over development leagues anyway...
I've been advocating AU join the FCS since aTm 2014. Might could give JMU a run for their money.
 
I don’t think the free market would support a paid league of 4 and 5 stars either. The NFL would just have to put together a development league knowing it isn’t even going to break even. But I would still prefer that to happen than salaries in college. It wouldn’t bother me one bit if college football was all 3 stars and less who valued education and didn’t need corners cut and cheating (or centers of excellence) to remain eligible. I think you’d still find 4 and 5 stars here and there who value education and choose college over development leagues anyway...
I've been advocating AU join the FCS since aTm 2014. Might could give JMU a run for their money.
You have lost your got-damn mind...we’d be a 3 loss team in FCS...
 
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