******Official Boog BBall 'Crootin Thread*******
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Impossible not to notice baby Sharife doing Harlem globetrotter shit in that vid too
He's not in the top 100 on any draft board I've seen. Everything he has said makes it appear he's going to college unless he gets drafted which is not happening. Really sucks we missed out on him.
I disagree with your take. I think the SEC will still be hella tough and probably better than it was this year. I don't think we should be disappointed if we finish 4/5 if we don't get Okeke or Harper back. We're going to have lost essentially 4 out of 5 starters and a key bench player/glue guy in Horace.
And your tweets that got people fired up were basically hinting that AU hoops is gonna have the same failures as AU football has had if we accept rebuilding years. I think that's problematic. I accept a rebuild under Bruce because I trust him to actually rebuild and get us back to the top tier and if he needs a year to reload I'm fine with that. I don't accept rebuilds from Gus because I don't trust him to rebuild, he's proven he cannot do the job. That's where you hit the hornets nest.
Thank you. I’m going to reply later with why I think what I do. Also I got tangled up arguing three different things with 5 people at once. I wasn’t my best
Well a rebuild under Bruce may indeed be a rebuild while a rebuild year under Gus is a yearly excuse. Agree 100%
Stats are underwhelming but a 5* coming out of HS. Handsome enough to boog imo.
couple of things.
I may have trampled all over myself arguing with those guys. I had 4 dudes coming at me hard from all angles. Forgive me for a few contradictions.
My original tweet was just being dramatic with a veiled sense of truth in there about how big of a loss I think Tucker is. That's why I included the term "mediocrity." To me, with Bruce Pearl Auburn has no ceiling. Anything is possible. I think that with that should come raised expectations from the fanbase. Didn't Bruce also say instead of rebuilding, we'd be reloading?
Why are raised expectations bad? I know we caught fire this year at the perfect time, but once we started consistently boogin' only the best could play with us. I don't consider that to be delusional. I never said we'd have the same problems as football. If I did, that was not my intention at all and I will legitimately blame that on arguing with 8000 people at once. I meant that Auburn people never raise their expectations when we have success in football, outside of most of you and some still on the bunker. I was trying to say that I hope that doesn't happen in basketball because it eventually can affect the swagger of the program. I don't like Auburn's aw shucks attitude when it comes to athletics. Greene seems to be changing that. Hopefully he continues to do so.
We have a talented experienced roster that has some holes, but overall I think we are still a horse length better than everyone except for Kentucky. Therefore, I think that a finish outside the top three next year is a disappointment. Here's why:
LSU and Tennessee were ELITE. Those rosters were stacked with players.
They are gone... who knows what LSU will be next year. Tennessee is taking a huge step back and their coach doesn't even want to be there.
UGA has Tom Crean. Under Crean, (I'm multi-tasking so this may be a generalization) but after 2014, Indiana got worse every year. Missing the tournament 5/9 years. He's getting the talent but he's always had talent and been a meh coach.
Bama should be better, but they are projected to be pretty good almost every year and never do anything of note. Consider me a wait and see.
Vandy... who actually knows
Florida... this is the one team I know will be better. Still gotta wait and see though.
So Auburn, Kentucky, Florida
everyone else.
I'm worried about length and a ballsy scorer. I think we all are. Hopefully Stretch makes it in, or we may be in real trouble with Austin and Ant's tendency to foul. We need another big.
Tucker being 6'5" was big for us losing HYG Okeke. The guy is extremely aggressive and a fearless shooter. We need that. People were saying this team is more talented than last year... which to me is crazy. We lost the best PG in the league and basically CBB. We lost a 40% 3pt shooter and elite defender. We also lost a 1st round PF who can shoot from anywhere and guard 1-5 on defense. I'm not sure how anyone can say with 100% fact that we will have more talent on this team. Future talent? SURE. Now talent... hope so.
I doubt many of you will agree, but that was just where I was coming from.
Thanks for being awesome everyone.
I'm not gonna go team by team on the SEC, we're just gonna disagree and we'll see how it plays out on that.
There is no issue with raising expectations, but sometimes when people bring that into play they get absolutely stupid. They don't understand that circumstances mean that 99% of programs in the history of college athletics have rebuilding years. Wooden's UCLA, Saban's bama and a few others don't. That's not a realistic goal right out of the gates for Bruce. We've just gotten to the point where even making the NCAA tourney is normal. I think the negative reaction you get when you start telling people they can't accept rebuilding years is that they hear someone who thinks they are going to be hearing Bruce is a failure if we finish 5th and don't make the Sweet 16, cause everyone overreacts. Hell we had people saying that Bruce couldn't coach when we missed Anfernee last year and people saying it again when we had a rough start to conference play this year. Most AU hoops fans don't want to see stupid football overreactions to every single loss...because they understand that great programs have years they are a 7 seed and the best teams have bad 2 week stretches where they look like crap. Neither of those things work for football and some of us get a little defensive of Bruce when we think people are going down that road.
Being disappointed by finishing lower than expected isn’t me saying that Bruce sucks. I want that man coaching Auburn basketball until I die. Then he can quit.
I don't disagree with you on that general point. I'm just telling you why the series of tweets ended up getting people twisted up. Those of us who have watched AU hoops for multiple decades don't react very well to people preemptively talking about disappointment before we even know the roster. And we are going to be highly defensive of Bruce. In principle you aren't wrong about having higher standards though. It's more about timing and how that comes across IMO.
I’m totally abrasive. You guys are obviously used to it. Guys I’ve honestly watched Auburn Basketball religiously since I can remember. I’m 28. I’ve only had 1999 and 2003. I stopped caring in Barbees last year. I’d had enough. However, I was one of the first people on the bunker posting in all caps that auburn should get Bruce. In fact I remember getting two pages worth of crap for that. I’m so happy Auburn got someone that ignites Auburn and makes it a better place for everyone. It’s like The only time in my life Auburn has done that. I love Bruce full gay style. Slightly more than I love all of you.
Xoxoxo
Somebody gonna give us a link to @captAUmerica21 twitter fights?
In other news there is some news floating around that AU might be a landing spot for former 5star PG Derryck Thornton from USC via Duke
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/may/13/usc-grad-transfer-derryck-thornton-has-gonzaga-on-/
https://247sports.com/college/aubur...nsfer-point-guard-Derryck-Thornton-132009940/
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/may/13/usc-grad-transfer-derryck-thornton-has-gonzaga-on-/
https://247sports.com/college/aubur...nsfer-point-guard-Derryck-Thornton-132009940/
the barn is not ready for the success Bruce has brought and the nature of college hoops. Yes you need talent on a team, but national championships are won more often than not by the team with the hot hand. Barners and boogs alike would better be served freaking out about women's softballs or why the sky is blue than assuming AU was going to have another final 4 team simply because Rayjon may have joined Bruce's HYGs. Thank gawd we post on a board that somewhat understands this.
the barn is not ready for the success Bruce has brought and the nature of college hoops. Yes you need talent on a team, but national championships are won more often than not by the team with the hot hand. Barners and boogs alike would better be served freaking out about women's softballs or why the sky is blue than assuming AU was going to have another final 4 team simply because Rayjon may have joined Bruce's HYGs. Thank gawd we post on a board that somewhat understands this.
As you know I was extremely attached to Rayjon.
Technically not. It means average. Meh.
To me, a #5 finish in the SEC means we had a meh season
Mediocre (adjective)
of only moderate quality; not very good.
Synonyms include: average, middle-of-the-road, common, adequate, fair...
Just read that Jared Harper has officially been invited to NBA combine
I hope you take this with all of the respect with which it is intended...
if you think a 5th place finish in the SEC next year is a mediocre result, you’re a goddamn idiot
forget any clarifying statements - ifs or buts or depending on - as they pertain to the roster or to other SEC teams or anything else you can think of... they’re irrelevant
it’s a stupid fvcking statement, made by someone who doesn’t deserve to have BRUCE as their coach
I like this kid, but right now it seems like we're just a hat on the table...if we're even on the table.
Why? Everyone is giving me these emotional and visceral responses and no one is telling me why. We would all be sour/frustrated about a 5th place finish.
Excuse me sir. I am an OG of House BRUCE.
As some may recall we finished 5th in the SEC last season and it turned out to be a pretty decent year.
Hate losing Rayjon but we still got 5 Srs back. All good ones. Gonna have a ton of experience and the best group of Frosh HYGs to ever descend upon the Plains. Presumably still add a tranny or 2 that can contribute. Gonna be another great year with Bruce at the helm.
Hate losing Rayjon but we still got 5 Srs back. All good ones. Gonna have a ton of experience and the best group of Frosh HYGs to ever descend upon the Plains. Presumably still add a tranny or 2 that can contribute. Gonna be another great year with Bruce at the helm.
Maybe a fifth place conference finish isn't so bad, if you won the regular season the previous year & then win the tourney ( and whatnot) the next.
Auburn Coaching History[2]
Tenure Coach Seasons Won Lost Tied Pct. Conf. Conf. Pct.
1905–1921 Donahue 16 74 80 1 .481 – –
1921–1924 Hutsell 3 16 24 – .400 – –
1924–1925 Bunker 1 3 11 – .214 – –
1925–1928 Papke 3 38 18 – .679 – –
1928–1929 Bohler 1 6 15 – .286 – –
1929–1930 Lee 1 1 10 – .091 – –
1930–1933 McAllister 3 25 18 – .581 4–7 .364
1933–42, 1945–46 Jordan 10 95 77 – .552 61–56 .521
1942–43, 1944–45 Evans 2 4 28 – .125 3–18 .143
1946–1947 Edney 1 3 18 – .143 1–15 .063
1947–1949 Doyle 2 21 25 – .457 12–18 .400
1949–1963 Eaves 14 213 100 – .681 124–75 .623
1963–1973 Lynn 10 130 124 – .512 84–88 .488
1973–1978 Davis 5 70 61 – .534 42–48 .467
1978–1989 Smith 11 173 154 – .529 84–114 .424
1989–1994 Eagles 5 64 78 – .451 29–55 .345
1994–2004 Ellis 10 186 125 – .598 73–87 .456
2004–2010 Lebo 6 96 93 – .508 35–61 .365
2010–2014 Barbee 4 49 75 – .395 18–50 .265
2014–present Pearl 5 100 72 – .581 40–50 .444
Total 113 1,367 1,206 1 .531 610–742 .451
Auburn Coaching History[2]
Tenure Coach Seasons Won Lost Tied Pct. Conf. Conf. Pct.
1905–1921 Donahue 16 74 80 1 .481 – –
1921–1924 Hutsell 3 16 24 – .400 – –
1924–1925 Bunker 1 3 11 – .214 – –
1925–1928 Papke 3 38 18 – .679 – –
1928–1929 Bohler 1 6 15 – .286 – –
1929–1930 Lee 1 1 10 – .091 – –
1930–1933 McAllister 3 25 18 – .581 4–7 .364
1933–42, 1945–46 Jordan 10 95 77 – .552 61–56 .521
1942–43, 1944–45 Evans 2 4 28 – .125 3–18 .143
1946–1947 Edney 1 3 18 – .143 1–15 .063
1947–1949 Doyle 2 21 25 – .457 12–18 .400
1949–1963 Eaves 14 213 100 – .681 124–75 .623
1963–1973 Lynn 10 130 124 – .512 84–88 .488
1973–1978 Davis 5 70 61 – .534 42–48 .467
1978–1989 Smith 11 173 154 – .529 84–114 .424
1989–1994 Eagles 5 64 78 – .451 29–55 .345
1994–2004 Ellis 10 186 125 – .598 73–87 .456
2004–2010 Lebo 6 96 93 – .508 35–61 .365
2010–2014 Barbee 4 49 75 – .395 18–50 .265
2014–present Pearl 5 100 72 – .581 40–50 .444
Total 113 1,367 1,206 1 .531 610–742 .451
If SBS ends up in this class should do no worse than 3rd in the league which would apparently make ppl satisfied with the season. So let’s hope for that.
Guys, SBS isn't gonna reclassify and frankly he shouldn't. Enjoy your Sr. year get all that kid stuff outta your system before you go to college, because these kids are on lock down once you get on campus. Bruce and the HYGs are going to put a solid product on the court, fugg'n enjoy it.
