OT: AUBURN BASKETBALL
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Ran across this ranking on Twitter. Had never heard of it before, but they have us at #4.
http://www.kpisports.net/d-i_mbb/2018kpi-d1mbb/
http://www.kpisports.net/d-i_mbb/2018kpi-d1mbb/
This is an official metric for the TOURNEY.
Did one/some of you send a little boy over to page me? (WDE something)?
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That's crap to me but not sure we'd be favored over any of the teams ranked above us on a neutral court. Maybe ASU? Maybe Cincy?
Haha
I think the subject of Alex Reese came up and we were making fun of you for saying he was better than Chuma. Also reminiscing about how you think Barbee is a better corch than BRUCE. Fun stuff.
*Has time to write four paragraph responses.*
*Does not have time to check username.*
Also -
Gang, if we go .500 from here on out we're 23-8 and 11-7 in SEC play. I'm not sure exactly what that seed would be, but we're dancing for sure.
I will always worry about the worst case scenario with AU hoops until proven otherwise because I'm still convinced we built the arena on sacred Indian burial ground or something. But knowing we can regress some and still be a tourney team feels pretty damn good.
I will always worry about the worst case scenario with AU hoops until proven otherwise because I'm still convinced we built the arena on sacred Indian burial ground or something. But knowing we can regress some and still be a tourney team feels pretty damn good.
Was this already posted? Jerry Palm has the Boogs as TWO seed
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
and the ignore list continues to grow...
The team is 9 deep but that’s also all the scholly players it has available too. Any injuries would really suck
Sounds about right. I just filled out my bracket, which has the boogs beating Radford, Butler, Kansas, North Carolina, Duke and Kentucky to cut down all the nets.
Do you know what Reese would look like with 4 years of development from CBP and company? Do you think CBP would develop him and use him in the same way he's typically used PF's in the past.
Hint: He might not be developed at the same level, or utilized the same way under Lil' Midget as he would under Coach Pearl.
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we can afford to miss someone for 2 games maybe, but I don't think we can afford to miss anyone for 2-3 weeks or more. Gotta avoid those longer term injuries and at worst only have a few slightly tweaked ankles.
We're going to run into some hot teams at some point. That's just hoops. MSU started that way and thankfully regressed to their mean as the game went on. But at some point a teams 3rd, 4th and 5th best shooters are all going to knock down shots on you and that's just not a night you are likely to get a W. But we might have nights were Chuma goes for 20 and Malik hits 5 from deep and you aren't beating us that day no matter who you are.
An infinitely worse version of CHUMA?
How long have you been sitting and waiting to throw that up? I'm certainly not that important, and as I've always said, none of us will always be right about everything that we say and predict. It's all about averages. Whether someone is usually right, or usually wrong. Whether they have a history of calling edge cases, (not the bulk of the bell curve deals), but the ones that most others don't see.
That said, I still stand by my opinion that Reese was/is a good B-ball prospect as a 4, and would have been good material for us given how CBP uses them. I believe if he'd come here, he'd have had a very good chance of having a good career. I honestly didn't remember making that comment,(until I saw the thread), but one very important consideration that you and likely didn't consider is that it was made 18 months or so ago off of data from when they were 16 year old soph's. That amount of time can make a significant difference in the development of a young kid. It's not like I said I didn't like Okeke as a prospect and thought he would be a dud, (as I've done with other prospects in football, B-ball and track). That said, I absolutely LOVE the way Chuma has developed, and what he brings to our team, and I'm extremely happy that CBP signed him.
I don't know how Avery and staff are going to develop and use Reese, but again, even though we knew we couldn't sign all of them, I've stated several times that I wanted all of those guys from the 2017 class that were visiting us and talking amongst themselves about coming to Auburn together. I loved Wendell Carter, and really liked Wiley, Reese, Garrison Brooks and Chuma as type of prospects we needed to compete for championships. All of them are the types that you could sign and develop into championship level players. During their sophomore seasons, Wiley wasn't anywhere near the BEAST that he is now either.
I certainly don't remember ever thinking that Chuma would be as good as he's been, this early into his career, but again, I'm loving it. When he was younger, I really liked certain aspects of his game, but simply wanted to see him have a little more dog in him, and play a little tougher inside. Dude is off the charts thus far in pretty much every aspect of the game. His handle, shooting, rebounding, and doing all of the little things too. Just a complete offensive game, especially for a true frosh.
In fairness you thought Deion Wade was comparable to Dwayne Wade. How can we take you serious with a history of bad evaluation?
I don't have any doubts that CJL or CTB could have this squad sitting with the exact same record. Maybe 15-0 even.
What an incredible little loser. Don't shoot the messenger huh. I knew you were full of crap. Now you're busted, (LOL).
BTW, what an awful insinuation. I've ALWAYS given CJL props for his X's, O's, but I also called a spade a spade when it came to his lack of effort recruiting, and lack of creative, outside of the box ideas etc.. which is EXACTLY what it takes for a regular coach to break through at Auburn.
Since you think that way, (i.e. the way you implied), you make the mistake of judging me by your own filter. And it's disgusting.
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I wasn’t sitting on that quote at all. I just remembered there were conversations before Chuma committed about who was the better prospect. So after watching Chuma this year and watching a few games of Teese, I just searched “Reese” on the bunker to reread the convos and there you were. No big deal. You had a bad take. It happens to everyone
If our administration had the level of B-ball knowledge that they have now, (i.e. due to the education Barbee gave them), we'd likely already have had a winning program for years. Barbee + World Wide Wes, (who we yokel'ed up, and made Barbee disassociate himself from him), + Cal's leftovers, would have given us a great chance to become a perennial top 25 and NCAA tourney team a long time ago with the talent we'd have gotten.
Yet, we rushed to judge likely based on scant knowledge about the "dirty AAU", over-reacted, and forced him to get rid of Wes, and we know the rest of the ramifications of us not brokering a split deal with Nike so that Barbee wouldn't have to throw away the best tool in his toolbox....i.e. his Nike recruiting network/source to talent. I mean, he had freaking Pro's out in timbucktoo, TX, (which is why he won). We were just too ignorant to realize what a gold mine we had sitting in our laps, and how stupid it would be to hire the man yet neuter him via the shoe association gaffe, (but again, we just didn't know what we know now).
Anyone want to guess why we overreacted to Wes like we did?
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Goodness gracious somebody needs an ass kickin for inviting this chode over here
I only did what @ThrustMaxwell asked me to. I regret it for sure.
He has literally argued with me about Lebo on multiple occasions and it always comes down to him saying that Lebo wasn't a good fit for Auburn, which he once again said in the post above but somehow I'm wrong.
You're wrong yet again. I didn't have any type of vendetta, at all. I offer my two cents, and they take it or leave it. However, if CJL had gone ahead and kept all of that talent, he might have been at Auburn a lot longer. We had what, two or maybe three all SEC, all-Big 10 type talents there. Maybe a couple of guys who were player of the year in the Big 10 and SEC, plus talented depth. Unless your name is Bruce Pearl, Coach K or Cal, it's just TOO TOUGH, almost impossible to get that type of talent amassed at Auburn. I KNEW if we hit the flush button and pushed it out, it might be a death knell. Had he, or Mike Anderson taken that incredible pile of talent that CCE had amassed, and made a deep tournament run, we'd have gotten millions of dollars worth of free publicity on ESPN, magazines etc., with everyone talking about how the new coach had turned it around overnight. We could have then used the free pub to recruit well and keep it all going.
It was all simple logic and rational...., NOT some type of silly vendetta. When Kill, B-Rob and others used to talk about Lebo, I'd upbraid them and tell them how they needed to respect their coach and do everything he was asking them to do etc. Same with Vot, Sheem and others. I've NEVER done anything to undermine an AU coach, but instead, did all I could to offer my two cents and do whatever might help our administration and PTB's take B-ball seriously.
It's a shame that folks can just come out on an internet board and make up anything they want and slander folks good names, with no repercussions. You are dead wrong.
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Feel free to believe whatever you'd like. While none of us will always be right, my track record of giving my two cents on football, basketball and track prospects speaks for itself.
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Next time you're at a game, why don't you come up and introduce yourself. Don't hide behind an internet moniker. It's pretty pathetic what you're implying, and unfortunately, once many people see me, their twisted, twarped minds "go there", and they try and hang their heart conditions on me. If you think like that, then speak for yourself, but don't speak for me.
Also, I'd LOVE to see you lay out that "pattern" that you bolded. Please do so. Ought to be fun, (and I fully expect crickets). Hint: There's only one pattern. Supporting what might work at Auburn, and offering my two cents and speaking up on what's NOT likely to work, (and I have enough stones to do so, and don't mind doing both). Lastly, you don't know crap about me, so don't act as if you know me.
@au4life_rz while you’re here penning novels can you tell us what your connection to AU bball or HS/ AUU bball is/ was? We’re curious. TIA.
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Your opinion on Barbee is completely wrong and it's almost directly 180 of the truth. He NEVER gave up, and came up with some pretty good backup plans, (when things would go wrong), and then, backup plans to the backup plans. I wouldn't have supported him if he didn't constantly bust his behind to generate VIABLE, creative options to overcome all of the obstacles he faced. Again, you couldn't have been more wrong regarding his work ethic.
He was way too hard on his kids, (copied Cal's coaching style to a tee, but didn't understand that he wasn't working with All-American studs who could take that type of old school Bobby Knight berating and A-chewing etc.). It was stupid to fight and bump heads with the administration and PTB's, no matter how bad they were hamstringing him, he needed to be more diplomatic to make it in our culture. He was ALWAYS perpetually starting over, so he never got anywhere. Anyone remotely talented would end up being gone through bizzare circumstances, (e.g. Varez Ward), flunking out, smoking themselves out, AAU coach wanting to dictate terms etc.. At any rate, I believe our administration learned a TON from, and was educated by Barbee, and though we'd missed many rare windows of opportunity in the past to leap frog the program ahead, we both recognized, and jumped on the opportunity to snatch CBP. That's why we're where we are today. There has been a LOT of long, hard, slow progress made since around 2004 or so.
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I don't believe I talked about who was better. Just said that while I wanted Chuma, I'd rather have Reese because I thought he was a better fit given how CBP had used certain 4's in the past. That was my opinion based on where their game was after their sophomore year in HS. Did any of you geniuses think to take into account the date of the post and other such things?
Hint: It might be wise to wait 3 or 4 years before writing Alex off as trash. I know, most folks who are just looking to take cheapshots just bumble out and fire prematurely, but half a season is not exactly a good data sample.
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I member when he ran off Shaq Johnson, the only exciting young player on our team.
That was fun.
No, but you know that's an outright lie. I've reposted my little review on him several times and shown that you were lying about that. You have no credibility.
jesus h motherfvcking christ... this lunatic was entertaining for about 2 posts, but now I hate all of you for engaging him
Bad takes certainly happen. I state that as a reminder quite frequently. However, how was me indicating that I thought Reese was a good prospect a bad take??? You can go find posts of me raving about Wendell Carter, Wiley, Garrison Brooks, Reese, MJ Walker, DJ Harvey, and Okeke.
I thought our staff would develop and utilize Reese to a high degree, and I based that particular post on where they were after their sophomore seasons, (or so). We'll never know how Reese would have looked at Auburn since he didn't come here. We can make a reasonable assumption after a few years, but based on where they are now, I don't believe any of us would trade them. Chuma is beasting on all levels, (so you can chalk it up as a miss if you'd like). As I told the little fella that came over picking at me, it's all about averages, not particular cases here and there. There was another one that even DM'ed me poking fun, and I tried to tell them that I'm definitely not worthy of that type of attention, (even if both of them signed with the same team and they'd just completed 4 years).
