OT: how to fix college sports

[Denim Vest]

just gonna spitball some ideas here:

Have a salary cap system for football/ basketball. Maybe up to $50k/ player per year + cost of attendance. Make the kids sign a 3 year contract. Has provisions for going to class, not getting arrested or doing drugs whatever. If they don’t want to be locked in for 3 years go pro straight out of HS.

Make agent contact allowable but they must be registered with the P5 oversight board and they can’t contact kids before they are enrolled in a school. Free to give kids whatever they want at that point.

Reduce schollies to 75 in football. 12 in basketball.

I’d also go ahead and do an 8 team football playoff. These are employees now and the 4 team is fuggin stupid anyway.

 

[BigtimeAub]

just gonna spitball some ideas here:

Have a salary cap system for football/ basketball. Maybe up to $50k/ player per year + cost of attendance. Make the kids sign a 3 year contract. Has provisions for going to class, not getting arrested or doing drugs whatever. If they don’t want to be locked in for 3 years go pro straight out of HS.

Make agent contact allowable but they must be registered with the P5 oversight board and they can’t contact kids before they are enrolled in a school. Free to give kids whatever they want at that point.

Reduce schollies to 75 in football. 12 in basketball.

I’d also go ahead and do an 8 team football playoff. These are employees now and the 4 team is fuggin stupid anyway.

Now, go ahead and address every other scholarship sport so as to satisfy all of the Title IX requirements.

 

[wcw3au1]

just gonna spitball some ideas here:

Have a salary cap system for football/ basketball. Maybe up to $50k/ player per year + cost of attendance. Make the kids sign a 3 year contract. Has provisions for going to class, not getting arrested or doing drugs whatever. If they don’t want to be locked in for 3 years go pro straight out of HS.

Make agent contact allowable but they must be registered with the P5 oversight board and they can’t contact kids before they are enrolled in a school. Free to give kids whatever they want at that point.

Reduce schollies to 75 in football. 12 in basketball.

I’d also go ahead and do an 8 team football playoff. These are employees now and the 4 team is fuggin stupid anyway.

It’s not a horrible idea but AU and most others are going to say “we’ll give you the 50 on the contract and 50 more under the table”. You can’t fix cheating if that’s what your idea is based on.

 

[Denim Vest]

Now, go ahead and address every other scholarship sport so as to satisfy all of the Title IX requirements.

Yeah that’s a toughy. They don’t generate revenue though. My proposal is F title 9 this is America.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Now, go ahead and address every other scholarship sport so as to satisfy all of the Title IX requirements.

Just hire a team of lawyers to wiggle around Title IX using some sort of loophole that only applies to revenue producing sports.

 

[Denim Vest]

It’s not a horrible idea but AU and most others are going to say “we’ll give you the 50 on the contract and 50 more under the table”. You can’t fix cheating if that’s what your idea is based on.

Nah I don’t really care about the cheating. Although I think it would reduce it a bit just cause there’s more money out in the open. Reduce the schollies keep it competitive even with the under the table stuff. Maybe try to require more financial disclosure from the kid and parents help minimize that.

 

[wcw3au1]

Nah I don’t really care about the cheating. Although I think it would reduce it a bit just cause there’s more money out in the open. Reduce the schollies keep it competitive even with the under the table stuff.

To make it more competitive I’d agree. Reducing to 85 made a huge difference from where it was. And you are right to an extent about the money.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

just gonna spitball some ideas here:

Have a salary cap system for football/ basketball. Maybe up to $50k/ player per year + cost of attendance. Make the kids sign a 3 year contract. Has provisions for going to class, not getting arrested or doing drugs whatever. If they don’t want to be locked in for 3 years go pro straight out of HS.

Make agent contact allowable but they must be registered with the P5 oversight board and they can’t contact kids before they are enrolled in a school. Free to give kids whatever they want at that point.

Reduce schollies to 75 in football. 12 in basketball.

I’d also go ahead and do an 8 team football playoff. These are employees now and the 4 team is fuggin stupid anyway.

I like Andy Staples idea with agents. Just let the kids have agents. Let the NCAA certify agents and tell kids they have to use certified agents. Then regulate the agents. I think this basically already happens in college baseball and hockey.

Just hire a team of lawyers to wiggle around Title IX using some sort of loophole that only applies to revenue producing sports.

You aren't getting around Title IX. It's one of those great ironies that liberal America/MSESPN want to pay college players, but the biggest obstacle is liberal legislation. You always hear people in the media (such as Staples) say to let the free markets/capitalism into college athletics. That's fine, but the free market aint supporting women's college sports.

 

[anon_xdkqbpnrbtnct]

I think I would honestly rather stick with the system we have now than pay players. I have always felt like the best thing for players that want to make money playing basketball is for them to go make money playing basketball. I feel like college sports is pretty upfront with the arrangements.

 

[RistDownAU]

Yeah that’s a toughy. They don’t generate revenue though. My proposal is F title 9 this is America.

You mean ole woman hater you.

 

[Harvey Specter]

Abolish women’s sports

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I think I would honestly rather stick with the system we have now than pay players. I have always felt like the best thing for players that want to make money playing basketball is for them to go make money playing basketball. I feel like college sports is pretty upfront with the arrangements.

I agree. People like to blame colleges, but really the fault lies with the pro sports. Take the NFL, they benefit from colleges being their only "farm" system, but they aren't putting any money into it. If it was like baseball and you could go straight from high school and start earning money in some version of a minor league, then colleges wouldn't get the flack they do for not allowing kids to be paid. But again, this would take money away from their bottom line.

 

[anon_xdkqbpnrbtnct]

I agree. People like to blame colleges, but really the fault lies with the pro sports. Take the NFL, they benefit from colleges being their only "farm" system, but they aren't putting any money into it. If it was like baseball and you could go straight from high school and start earning money in some version of a minor league, then colleges wouldn't get the flack they do for not allowing kids to be paid. But again, this would take money away from their bottom line.

The NFL loves this system. They get 3 free years of scouting tape before investing highly coveted draft picks and money.

 

[AUBKV]

1. Give another media outlet broadcast rights on because ESPN is awful

2. More hot cheerleaders / hot girls in crowd shots (@CJ3131's "papa bear provision", or how many hot girl shots per every game minute - "lots" - will be taught in cameramen technical schools worldwide)

Pretty simple IMHO.

 

[FormerlyKnownAsSOLLY]

Abolish women’s sports

Lettuce do away with this first tho

 

[Fillup Marschell]

Van Gundy doin God’s work
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/piston...rst-organization-sports-195822086.html?exp=vv

 

[anon_xdkqbpnrbtnct]

Van Gundy doin God’s work
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/piston...rst-organization-sports-195822086.html?exp=vv

Stan Van Gundy looks like the guy in the heist who walks into the bar with the Rolex and fur coat after the robbery proceeds are given out.

 

[fairfield35064]

1. Give another media outlet broadcast rights on because ESPN is awful

2. More hot cheerleaders / hot girls in crowd shots (@CJ3131's "papa bear provision", or how many hot girl shots per every game minute - "lots" - will be taught in cameramen technical schools worldwide)

Pretty simple IMHO.

I think this was the XFL business model.

 

[Denim Vest]

Van Gundy doin God’s work
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/piston...rst-organization-sports-195822086.html?exp=vv

Damn. Preach it Saint Stan Van.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

I think something that can be done now that would help would be to re-vamp the rule book and then the member universities jointly funding a rules enforcement organization separate from the NCAA. Currently, the NCAA has too many conflicts of interest in their enforcement of punishment, given how much they rely on certain sports and events (like the NCAA basketball tourney) to fund the organization. Removing those conflicts of interest by creating a separate organization to uphold NCAA rules seems like a positive first step.

 

[stutsman23]

I think something that can be done now that would help would be to re-vamp the rule book and then the member universities jointly funding a rules enforcement organization separate from the NCAA. Currently, the NCAA has too many conflicts of interest in their enforcement of punishment, given how much they rely on certain sports and events (like the NCAA basketball tourney) to fund the organization. Removing those conflicts of interest by creating a separate organization to uphold NCAA rules seems like a positive first step.

But the bluebloods surely wouldn't want that.... They enjoy the current setup and the ability to cheat the system and not have to worry about being punished

I agree with you though. That would be a good idea if we are truly trying to enforce the rules equally

 

[Denim Vest]

I just think you have to compensate them a little at this point. A lot of these kids/ families are straight broke and the education part is such a sham. Hardly any are getting legit degrees and the schools just do whatever to get them eligible. Could probably give them more like $20-30k than 50. Whatever they do hopefully it involves the end of the NCAA and the P5 governing themselves. Don't need some nerd from a mid major or Ivy League making decisions on the behalf of real athletic programs.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

I just think you have to compensate them a little at this point. A lot of these kids/ families are straight broke and the education part is such a sham. Hardly any are getting legit degrees and the schools just do whatever to get them eligible. Could probably give them more like $20-30k than 50. Whatever they do hopefully it involves the end of the NCAA and the P5 governing themselves. Don't need some nerd from a mid major or Ivy League making decisions on the behalf of real athletic programs.

For college basketball specifically, I don't want the mid-majors to go away. Their presence and the idea of a cinderella is what the NCAAT is all about for me.Those first four days are a magical time in college athletics. Removing the NCAA and letting the P5 run things will force 2 new divisions with little to no post-season crossover. I'd hate to see that.

And I'm all for giving these players some money since they can't really go out and get a job that would provide some extra money, but if you pay one sport, I can't see any way you could get around not paying every sport. The Title IX situation would significantly impact that. That may not be as big an issue for the major athletic programs in the country, but the smaller schools would surely have issues there.

 

[Denim Vest]

For college basketball specifically, I don't want the mid-majors to go away. Their presence and the idea of a cinderella is what the NCAAT is all about for me.Those first four days are a magical time in college athletics. Removing the NCAA and letting the P5 run things will force 2 new divisions with little to no post-season crossover. I'd hate to see that.

And I'm all for giving these players some money since they can't really go out and get a job that would provide some extra money, but if you pay one sport, I can't see any way you could get around not paying every sport. The Title IX situation would significantly impact that. That may not be as big an issue for the major athletic programs in the country, but the smaller schools would surely have issues there.

Yeah I'd def operate the tourney the same way. Maybe you can do something like each sport gets an equal % of revenue. Then the football/ bball players can get $30K /yr and the girls can get an extra 80 bucks or whatever.