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A friend sent me a screenshot from an article about OT crootin' which includes the depth chart going into next season.

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I actually think there is a chance the OL next year is okay. Not great, but better than what we saw last year. Experience does help on the OL and they seemed to be improving at the end of the season......

but whew boy does that depth chart show some serious issues with 2020 and beyond. We're going to be handcuffing the next staff for a few years IMO. Absolutely brutal. We're gonna have an OL that makes Vandy and Mizzou level programs laugh at us.
 
I actually think there is a chance the OL next year is okay. Not great, but better than what we saw last year. Experience does help on the OL and they seemed to be improving at the end of the season......

but whew boy does that depth chart show some serious issues with 2020 and beyond. We're going to be handcuffing the next staff for a few years IMO. Absolutely brutal. We're gonna have an OL that makes Vandy and Mizzou level programs laugh at us.

On the one hand Tega and Harrell were actually pretty good all year, and OL is a position where you can sometimes see a lot of improvement.

BUT OTOH, Horton was awful all year and has been in the system a while and had played a lot of SEC ball. Both centers we played last year were really bad. Driscoll had played a lot of football and did not look like a good enough athlete to play in the SEC. So I could see it going either way. I think it helped our perception of the OL because we ended the season with Purdue. Unfortunately I don't think there are a lot of Purdues on the schedule.
 
I try not to let this stuff bother me anymore - but come on... how difficult is it to keep a relatively balanced roster?

this isn’t the hard stuff... this isn’t trying to scheme a way to slow down the BAMA or CLEMSON offense when they’re insanely loaded... or trying to sequence play calls that allow you a specific advantage for a specific down and distance that you’re saving for a specific time in a game... or even trying to outrecruit guys with proven track records and come up with a creative way to sell your program and find the best kids to fit it

I can take getting beat - I am, after all, an AUBURN man... I have years of experience in that area... but how can you screw up the basic stuff so badly that you render the hard stuff meaningless?
 
I actually think there is a chance the OL next year is okay. Not great, but better than what we saw last year. Experience does help on the OL and they seemed to be improving at the end of the season......

but whew boy does that depth chart show some serious issues with 2020 and beyond. We're going to be handcuffing the next staff for a few years IMO. Absolutely brutal. We're gonna have an OL that makes Vandy and Mizzou level programs laugh at us.

On the one hand Tega and Harrell were actually pretty good all year, and OL is a position where you can sometimes see a lot of improvement.

BUT OTOH, Horton was awful all year and has been in the system a while and had played a lot of SEC ball. Both centers we played last year were really bad. Driscoll had played a lot of football and did not look like a good enough athlete to play in the SEC. So I could see it going either way. I think it helped our perception of the OL because we ended the season with Purdue. Unfortunately I don't think there are a lot of Purdues on the schedule.

I think the OL will be fine this year but not great. Next year is going to be bad.

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I try not to let this stuff bother me anymore - but come on... how difficult is it to keep a relatively balanced roster?

this isn’t the hard stuff... this isn’t trying to scheme a way to slow down the BAMA or CLEMSON offense when they’re insanely loaded... or trying to sequence play calls that allow you a specific advantage for a specific down and distance that you’re saving for a specific time in a game... or even trying to outrecruit guys with proven track records and come up with a creative way to sell your program and find the best kids to fit it

I can take getting beat - I am, after all, an AUBURN man... I have years of experience in that area... but how can you screw up the basic stuff so badly that you render the hard stuff meaningless?
This is why Gus drives me nuts. I consider myself a realist. If some of our rivals are peaking our peak isn't going to be good enough to beat them consistently. We're not taking peak UA/UGA/LSU and sweeping them every season like some fools expect. We need to have the 2010 and 2013 magic seasons and the off seasons we just need to be freaking competitive and take our hits when we face monsters. Beat LSU when they are a discombobulated mess. Not lose to UT at home. Not lose to MSU as often as we beat them. A solid roster and decent game plans does that.

This is a poorly managed program right now. We're not run in a professional, well thought out manner. I'd call in high school but honestly most high schools have a better plan than what Gus has shown. He just wakes up every day and goes to work drawing plays on napkins and figuring out how he can maybe practice faster. There is no plan. No direction. No thinking ahead. He's not building anything, he's just occupying a seat and collecting a check.
 
This is why Gus drives me nuts. I consider myself a realist. If some of our rivals are peaking our peak isn't going to be good enough to beat them consistently. We're not taking peak UA/UGA/LSU and sweeping them every season like some fools expect. We need to have the 2010 and 2013 magic seasons and the off seasons we just need to be freaking competitive and take our hits when we face monsters. Beat LSU when they are a discombobulated mess. Not lose to UT at home. Not lose to MSU as often as we beat them. A solid roster and decent game plans does that.

This is a poorly managed program right now. We're not run in a professional, well thought out manner. I'd call in high school but honestly most high schools have a better plan than what Gus has shown. He just wakes up every day and goes to work drawing plays on napkins and figuring out how he can maybe practice faster. There is no plan. No direction. No thinking ahead. He's not building anything, he's just occupying a seat and collecting a check.

it’s infuriating if you think about it too long... Clemson building essentially the exact program I always envisioned as the blueprint for longterm Auburn success isn’t helping matters either
 
it’s infuriating if you think about it too long... Clemson building essentially the exact program I always envisioned as the blueprint for longterm Auburn success isn’t helping matters either
We had our chance after 2010, but instead of having a genius at the helm who could sketch out the next 5 years and build something we had Jay and Gene in control putting retinal scanners in and going all in on guys like Trotter and Moseley at QB. Gene was already jealous of Gus and trying to figure out how to make the defense the focal point of the program so he got more credit.

Who knows if we'll ever get that shot again. You build on a national title or you watch all that momentum waste away.
 
We had our chance after 2010, but instead of having a genius at the helm who could sketch out the next 5 years and build something we had Jay and Gene in control putting retinal scanners in and going all in on guys like Trotter and Moseley at QB. Gene was already jealous of Gus and trying to figure out how to make the defense the focal point of the program so he got more credit.

Who knows if we'll ever get that shot again. You build on a national title or you watch all that momentum waste away.

I know this is true for a lot of coaches, but I still remember in the 2011 National Championship game Gene was part of the broadcast and he kept trying to talk offense. ESPN clearly wanted to ask him questions about defense, but he kept interjecting what he knew about offense. That was when I realized how much of this was about ego for him.
 
I know this is true for a lot of coaches, but I still remember in the 2011 National Championship game Gene was part of the broadcast and he kept trying to talk offense. ESPN clearly wanted to ask him questions about defense, but he kept interjecting what he knew about offense. That was when I realized how much of this was about ego for him.
That was actually the first time I thought Gene was competent.......as a broadcaster.
 
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I could have built a program as good or better than Clemson has now after we won the 2010 NC, and I’ve never played a down of football in my life - or even been a freaking cheerleader for that matter.
I’m just smarter than the people who were there at the time and those who followed, and I sure as hell have more business sense than the lot of them.
 
I’m just smarter than the people who were there at the time and those who followed, and I sure as hell have more business sense than the lot of them.

You just listed the reason they’d never would have hired you. They just want/wanted to be masters of the puppets. Long term success is nothing to having a multi-million dollar sandbox where you can control everything and be king of your playground apparently.
 
I could have built a program as good or better than Clemson has now after we won the 2010 NC, and I’ve never played a down of football in my life - or even been a freaking cheerleader for that matter.
I’m just smarter than the people who were there at the time and those who followed, and I sure as hell have more business sense than the lot of them.

This.
 
I actually think there is a chance the OL next year is okay. Not great, but better than what we saw last year. Experience does help on the OL and they seemed to be improving at the end of the season......

but whew boy does that depth chart show some serious issues with 2020 and beyond. We're going to be handcuffing the next staff for a few years IMO. Absolutely brutal. We're gonna have an OL that makes Vandy and Mizzou level programs laugh at us.
Thank fvck we have “The Technician”.
 
We had our chance after 2010, but instead of having a genius at the helm who could sketch out the next 5 years and build something we had Jay and Gene in control putting retinal scanners in and going all in on guys like Trotter and Moseley at QB. Gene was already jealous of Gus and trying to figure out how to make the defense the focal point of the program so he got more credit.

Who knows if we'll ever get that shot again. You build on a national title or you watch all that momentum waste away.
That all may be true, but our program went to shit when our bagmen decided to allow shitty 2nd-3rd tier programs like Clemson to start outbidding us for elite QB (and OL) talent.

Abso-God-Damned-Lutely no reason you allow your program to follow up a Cam Newton natty with a Clint Moseley and a Barrett Trotter or a Nick Marshall with a SW/TQ/JJ/JF3.

That’s either gross negligence, gross incompetence, or gross cheapness.
 
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That all may be true, but our program went to shit when our bagmen decided to allow shitty 2nd-3rd tier programs like Clemson to start outbidding us for elite QB (and OL) talent.

Abso-God-Damned-Lutely no reason you allow your program to follow up a Cam Newton natty with a Clint Moseley and a Barrett Trotter or a Nick Marshall with a SW/TQ/JJ/JF3.

That’s either gross negligence, gross incompetence, or gross cheapness.

We literally have had 2 guys at HC would you wouldn't hire to run a 7/11 if you spent a week with them. They aren't leaders. They aren't thinkers. They would never, ever be CEO of anything if sports didn't exist. They may be good men for all I know, but they aren't intelligent or highly skilled strategists. It was a mix of gross incompetence and massive ego short circuiting everything.

And maybe in Gus's case his inability to so much as converse with the people who are important around the program likely cost him the kind of friends you need to properly fund a bagman program. I put that on him more than those guys. Know how your bread is buttered and be capable of glad handing and making the donor class feel important. It's a key job description until you win so much you can tell them to kiss your ass. Cause at that point they'll keep funding your success even if you steal their wives, but he thought 2013 granted him that power and boy did he miscalculate that like he does a dive on 1st down.
 
I still think Nick Brahms is gonna be good. Kid was coming off of two leg breaks in two years and was rushed into action because Kaleb Kim was drowning. A lot of the future depends on him and Troxell living up to their potential but we'll see. Landing a stud 3 year starter from day one in the 2020 class would solve a lot of problems but I'm not optimistic that will happen but who knows

I'm excited about some of the skill position guys though. Boobie is a beast. Shivers is really good too. So are Seth Williams and Anthony Schwartz. QB is obviously the biggest issue
 
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I still think Nick Brahms is gonna be good. Kid was coming off of two leg breaks in two years and was rushed into action because Kaleb Kim was drowning. A lot of the future depends on him and Troxell living up to their potential but we'll see. Landing a stud 3 year starter from day one in the 2020 class would solve a lot of problems but I'm not optimistic that will happen but who knows

I'm excited about some of the skill position guys though. Boobie is a beast. Shivers is really good too. So are Seth Williams and Anthony Schwartz. QB is obviously the biggest issue

Brahms stepping up or Kim becoming massively better is the only thing that changes my thoughts on the OL, and I agree that I have more faith in Brahms being the one.
 
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I actually think there is a chance the OL next year is okay. Not great, but better than what we saw last year. Experience does help on the OL and they seemed to be improving at the end of the season......

but whew boy does that depth chart show some serious issues with 2020 and beyond. We're going to be handcuffing the next staff for a few years IMO. Absolutely brutal. We're gonna have an OL that makes Vandy and Mizzou level programs laugh at us.
It's funny bc bmatt asked back in December about the future at the OL and Gus was like "nah we good". Then he comes out on NSD talking about how they didn't need OL but will need 7-8 next class. That's piss poor management that's extremely short sighted.
Also, I first believe Gus thinks the majority of problems on game day come from the kids not executing. He's arrogant enough to think he's so smart that he can take anyone and make them competitive bc if scheme. He only cares about recruiting eleite at certain positions aka ppl that can run fast.
 


Really hope this is true but I’ll believe it when I see it
That is probably a bad idea with the makeup of the offense. He needs to slow the game down on offense and let the defense rest. They're his best shot at 8 wins but can't do shit if the offense goes 3 and out in 40 seconds.
 
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