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lmfao.......you are top 10ish but not top 5. Excellent post though!!
 
As I recall Barbee had a couple stud players lined up that Boog U wouldn’t let enroll. Then he had the Don of AL AAU’s son wanting to be on the support staff and Boog U said no on that as well. This was all pretty much right after he got hired.

Of course then he ran off every decent player we had and seemed sour AF about being here but still cashed those fat checks.
 
As I recall Barbee had a couple stud players lined up that Boog U wouldn’t let enroll. Then he had the Don of AL AAU’s son wanting to be on the support staff and Boog U said no on that as well. This was all pretty much right after he got hired.

Of course then he ran off every decent player we had and seemed sour AF about being here but still cashed those fat checks.

Being on Team Nike was far more important to him than making the best of our situation. Almost the exact polar opposite of Studly McPearl who was “Pfft, I could put these kids in British Knights apparel, recruit, and win”
 
It’s hard to imagine. Until you think about what Auburn and 80% MINIMUM of our fanbase is. Then it’s easy to at least entertain the thought.

There are things that I could have talked about. But I never have. Didn't see a need to defend him using any of that stuff. Life is life, and
I done seen it with my own eyes. Oh well I’d like to move on from this banter with rz so I’ll just say to him War Eagle enjoy the season.

Sigh.... Are you posting something out of context, so as to mis-characterize what I said???

The essence of everything I've said over the years is that Barbee didn't get the credit for the job he did from an X's, O's and game-planning point of view, given the PATHETIC level of talent we had. There are many coaches who wouldn't have done as well, had they been coaching that same talent.

The fact that we are out here discussing him in the middle of a great AU B-ball run, is fairly sad. Some of you guys need to let it go. #Letgo.com
 
There are things that I could have talked about. But I never have. Didn't see a need to defend him using any of that stuff. Life is life, and


Sigh.... Are you posting something out of context, so as to mis-characterize what I said???

The essence of everything I've said over the years is that Barbee didn't get the credit for the job he did from an X's, O's and game-planning point of view, given the PATHETIC level of talent we had. There are many coaches who wouldn't have done as well, had they been coaching that same talent.

The fact that we are out here discussing him in the middle of a great AU B-ball run, is fairly sad. Some of you guys need to let it go. #Letgo.com

He was awful all around. Probably the worst coach in Auburn history along with Doug Barfield. Where is Barbee head coaching these days?
 
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There are things that I could have talked about. But I never have. Didn't see a need to defend him using any of that stuff. Life is life, and


Sigh.... Are you posting something out of context, so as to mis-characterize what I said???

The essence of everything I've said over the years is that Barbee didn't get the credit for the job he did from an X's, O's and game-planning point of view, given the PATHETIC level of talent we had. There are many coaches who wouldn't have done as well, had they been coaching that same talent.

The fact that we are out here discussing him in the middle of a great AU B-ball run, is fairly sad. Some of you guys need to let it go. #Letgo.com

1) the pathetic talent level was Barbee's fault

2) Barbee did well at Auburn?
 
Barbee didn't get the credit for the job he did from an X's, O's and game-planning point of view, given the PATHETIC level of talent we had.
So glad I checked back in and got this RICE NUGGET. Barbee is a garbage coach. The talent problem was on him. His X's and O's left him with .333 record.
 
So glad I checked back in and got this RICE NUGGET. Barbee is a garbage coach. The talent problem was on him. His X's and O's left him with .333 record.
Let’s not forget we had to schedule the worst teams possible in the non conference to get to 10 wins. I’ll never forget watching in the stands vs LSU when we had 6 points at half.
 
1) the pathetic talent level was Barbee's fault

2) Barbee did well at Auburn?

1) The talent level was certainly, ultimately, on him. However, one of my first posts in the thread clearly shows how we could have easily been rolling in talent with him had we allowed a few simple things that I'm guessing we would likely allow today. Plan after plan, after plan hit roadblocks, was killed/fragged, and he'd adapt, adjust and come up with another one, but ultimately, his inability to sign guys he could keep long enough to develop them put the death knell/cherry on top.

2) You're right. The bottom line is that he failed.


We were extremely fortunate to get CBP, and now that we're winning. Everyone should eventually move on from Barbee, (and most already have). CTB had good ideas that had a chance to work, had he been able to go with his primary or secondary plans, (sometimes, even his tertiary plans). I could list a LITANY of things that were shot down, that haven't already been mentioned but even so, it wouldn't serve any real purpose for those of you who have already judged the situation before getting the facts. You only want to print the last line.., "HE FAILED". As I continue to say, it's all moot now, so why spend time talking about it???

There are very, very few who could recruit to Auburn using their personal brand, the way CBP has done. However, if we remain a top 25 program for long enough, we should be able to recruit on par with other top programs, (and I've been screaming this for the past 15-17 years). Hopefully, this is the first of 5-10 years where we're in the top 25. I believe that CBP can sustain it, whereas it was clear to me that CCE was not likely to do so, (and unfortunately, he didn't).
 
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Dribble dribble shoot shoot, back to hoops my boog friends. How far will you be willing to travel to see the opening round games? I’d love to go to Nashville or Charlotte, but would possibly consider San Diego if the seed was high enough.
 
1) The talent level was certainly, ultimately, on him. However, one of my first posts in the thread clearly shows how we could have easily been rolling in talent with him had we allowed a few simple things that I'm guessing we would likely allow today. Plan after plan, after plan hit roadblocks, was killed/fragged, and he'd adapt, adjust and come up with another one, but ultimately, his inability to sign guys he could keep long enough to develop them put the death knell/cherry on top.

2) You're right. The bottom line is that he failed.


We were extremely fortunate to get CBP, and now that we're winning. Everyone should eventually move on from Barbee, (and most already have). CTB had good ideas that had a chance to work, had he been able to go with his primary, secondary plans. As I continue to say, it's all moot now, so why spend time talking about it???

There are very, very few who could recruit to Auburn using their personal brand, the way CBP has done. However, if we remain a top 25 program for long enough, we should be able to recruit on par with other top programs, (and I've been screaming this for the past 15-17 years). Hopefully, this is the first of 5-10 years where we're in the top 25. I believe that CBP can sustain it, whereas it was clear to me that CCE was not likely to do so, (and unfortunately, he didn't).

What has Bruce done that Barbee wasn't allowed to do to bring in talent?

Why did Barbee run off the majority of the talented players that he brought in?
 
There was a game @ Florida where I thought we played pretty well under Barbee. The rest is a blur.

Allen Payne was cool though. I had a class with him.
We came back from down 19 to Miss St with like 9 minutes left in the game or something crazy like that.

But yeah, not a great stretch. Loved Kenny G and Chris Dinson though
 
What has Bruce done that Barbee wasn't allowed to do to bring in talent?

Why did Barbee run off the majority of the talented players that he brought in?

Good grief Cookie. Please don't start it back up. I don't want to go into details when I've already typed book length posts on all of this old stuff that doesn't matter one whit.

First, I've never said that CBP was allowed to do things that Barbee wasn't, in the manner that I think you are implying, however, there are many things that I could list. A few of which have been alluded to by others in this thread. As I've said a thousand friggin times. There is NO COMPARISON between CTB and CBP when it comes to recruiting due to the fact that CBP is a brand unto himself, and he has the cachet to recruit nationally based on HIS BRAND and name alone. I said this before it was announced that we'd hired him. He'll be able to blast through the hurdles that would kill most any other "normal" coach trying to recruit to Auburn. In addition to his brand and name recognition, he is a dynamic salesman and charismatic recruiter. Just all the things you need to recruit at a high level.

Though I will NOT go into detail and list all of the things I could..., I was watching VERY closely when CBP was first hired. First thing he did, was to get on the horn and call several prominent AAU coaches around the Southeast, (and we didn't throw up a stop sign or restrictions...which was VERY good). When he went to his first coach's conference, I believe around NCAA time, he met with the Pump brothers, and I was holding my breath to see if we'd tell him he couldn't have anything to do with them, the way we'd told Barbee he couldn't have anything to do with Worldwide Wes, Mark Komara et. al.. We didn't, and I thought it was a great sign that we'd learned from our recent past. There are tons of others that I could enumerate, but I'll just let it go.

We are where we are today, largely because of some folks who worked VERY hard to educate our administration, PTBs etc. on the lay of the B-ball recruiting landscape, and B-ball program building in general, and Barbee played a HUGE role in that process. I'm just grateful that we are where we are today.
 
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Not sure where this came from, but it’s on an Auburn board.

*Auburn has not filed paperwork with the NCAA yet asking for Danjel Purifoy to be granted eligibility for the remainder of the 2018 season. That is still a work in progress, we have been told. In Austin Wiley’s case, the professional staff from the NCAA turned down Auburn’s request for the sophomore center to compete in games this season, but has cleared him to play next season.

Auburn is not giving up on getting Wiley back for this season, however, and has filed an appeal to a six-member committee of college administrators from around the country that has the authority to change what the NCAA staff decided. NCAA rules require a hearing on AU’s appeal within 10 business days. I wouldn’t get my hopes up for Wiley returning to game action season, but it is also something I wouldn’t rule out. The hearing will be done by conference call and the sophomore will be able to talk directly to the committee members.

Both Wiley and Purifoy are allowed to practice with their teammates.
 
Not sure where this came from, but it’s on an Auburn board.

*Auburn has not filed paperwork with the NCAA yet asking for Danjel Purifoy to be granted eligibility for the remainder of the 2018 season. That is still a work in progress, we have been told. In Austin Wiley’s case, the professional staff from the NCAA turned down Auburn’s request for the sophomore center to compete in games this season, but has cleared him to play next season.

Auburn is not giving up on getting Wiley back for this season, however, and has filed an appeal to a six-member committee of college administrators from around the country that has the authority to change what the NCAA staff decided. NCAA rules require a hearing on AU’s appeal within 10 business days. I wouldn’t get my hopes up for Wiley returning to game action season, but it is also something I wouldn’t rule out. The hearing will be done by conference call and the sophomore will be able to talk directly to the committee members.

Both Wiley and Purifoy are allowed to practice with their teammates.
This is where we need Greg Sankey to go to bat for his conference’s premiere team. If you want a natty, park at the NCAA office and don’t leave until Wiley is eligible.
 
We came back from down 19 to Miss St with like 9 minutes left in the game or something crazy like that.

But yeah, not a great stretch. Loved Kenny G and Chris Dinson though

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I could run off several other games, (some top 25, some NCAA teams that we upset), that were pretty much miraculous wins under the man given the talent level we had and the talent they had, (even when he first got here and everyone was inherited), but it doesn't matter. Heck, it took us a while to equal or better his last conference record with much better talent on the roster. It's NOT.....EASY....winning at Auburn. Even for some of the very best in the game.

I do know this, you could give many a name brand coach that exact same talent, (that CTB had his entire tenure), and see what their records would have been playing the same schedule, and it would probably really open a few eyes, (for the folks who are objective and open to truth). Doesn't matter one bit now, and we need to move on and get behind this team. I believe we've truly arrived. We've got to navigate a few touchy things, but we get through those clean, and we're in bidness for the next half a decade or more.
 
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Being on Team Nike was far more important to him than making the best of our situation. Almost the exact polar opposite of Studly McPearl who was “Pfft, I could put these kids in British Knights apparel, recruit, and win”

Did you really just say that??? You'd be surprised how many coaches would go flat if you took Adidas or Nike away from them and dried up their talent supplier.

Most importantly, do you not understand the difference between Bruce....friggin...Pearl, and most normal coaches trying to recruit at Auburn??? As I said before we hired him, "he'll be able to recruit regardless of shoe affiliation due to his name and brand alone". That's why he said that....not because shoe affiliation isn't very important for some coaches. He LIVED off of Adidas talent at UT.
 
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Griffna. Just the worst to me and I can’t figure out why so many defend her

So insufferable
Female version of Ricederp but without the edits. Both would argue with God about the Bible for 10 pages in a thread and still claim they are right afterwards.

Just like Ricederp, I have told her that she hardly ever wins those arguments and that other people just get tired of the stupidity and decide to stop responding. And just like with Rice, I had to explain to her the difference. :confused:
 
Griffna doesn't bother me like you guys but I have got the sense she is a miserable person. Pretty negative about a lot of things.
 
Griffna doesn't bother me like you guys but I have got the sense she is a miserable person. Pretty negative about a lot of things.
Her whole “look how cool I am because I’m so angry and cynical about life” and calling her s/o “the boyfriend” shtick just gets old after about 2 posts.

But the thread where she confessed to not giving blowjobs nor to understanding why they were important if regular sex was happening was fun.
 
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