That sounds like it should be on dawgvent and not the AJc. Extremely petty and, even worse, factually wrong.
OT: AUBURN BASKETBALL
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Jeff Schultz...he mad.
Need takes on boog basketball. Are we not about as well off securing players not in any ratings top 50? Like middle of the road or higher 4 star players that will stay with the program and bring consistency and not have the prima donna personalities? I know I get pretty booged up when we get a top 25 player, but how many Five Stars have we ever had anyway? I guess Heron & Wiley fit that description, but we seem to be doing very well without much help from either. Isn't that the way most successful Mid Majors do it? And I haven't read this entire thread, so I'm sorry if this is a rendundant question.
I think so. If you have a legacy one-and-done or can convince a one-and-done to come in and play in your system, great. But we aren’t about to be Duke or Kentucky, so I don’t think we should prioritize our recruiting on those blue chip guys. Recruit in the 50-100 range and build a veteran, grizzled roster with great but not necessarily elite talent.
I think that’s a good strategy. Look how much better we are as a team after 1 year of playing with each other. We still need to get at least 1 elite player every other cycle (which would be amazing for AU basketball so might not be feasible). I wonder how much easier it will be for Bruce todecruit after the NCAA cloud leaves and he has an NCAA tournament appearance under his belt at AU.
I had NO idea you knew so much about basketball until you started posting here, and I really enjoy your takes on all of it.
And we need to do this to keep the boog Nation in front of all of these recruits.
The UF title teams with Noah and Horford are the perfect execution of having guys good enough to dominate college ball in their 2nd and 3rd years because they weren’t 1&Done type talents. I think that’s the sweet spot for programs who aren’t blue bloods.
Still in the top 20 in the AP at #19.
If we can pull off wins at Mizzou and LSU at home, I think we will see another jump. Huge if though.
I was the first to offer and popularize that approach about 14 years ago and many have since adopted it, but that idea was crafted specifically for "normal" coaches at AU. I don't necessarily agree with that approach now, while we have someone like CBP at the helm.
While we definitely need glue guys, and 3 or 4 year backbone types, we should take as many talented players as we can get, (if that's what CBP wants), and ride them to great heights. There's no need for it when you can go straight top shelf and get stud ponies.
Lastly, don't believe the idiot TV talking heads who act as if Staph is the first 5-star quality kid we ever got. They still say we've only signed one, (dismissing Austin), and also failing to acknowledge that the star system is relatively new. We've signed multiple kids ranked at Mustapha's relative level prior to the star system being in place.
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Marco Killingsworth and Brandon Robinson were considered top 20 overall recruits in the country by ESPN. They’re also the players that got us in Komara-ban territory.
Abdieu Jdiame was a huge recruit. No idea if I spelled his name right.
Jamison Brewer was a top 100 guy from what I remember.
Adam Harrington was a top 25 guy. Mack McGadney was a big recruit.
I was at Auburn during all of these guys tenure. Those names were huge talents. What’s even more ridiculous is that during this time period Alabama was signing top 20 guys every year and could barely make the tournament if they even did make it.
Yep. Good points by all. Killingsworth and Robinson both Top 20 guys
http://www.espn.com/recruiting/s/000717top100.html
Ellis could coach and recruit when he had us rolling.
If the FBI wouldn't have gotten involved, we would have likely signed Christian Brown and Hagans in 2019 class. Now UGA will. Sigh.
Good breakdown of Auburn’s NCAA resume.
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/b...ll-ncaa-team-sheet-shows-resume-in-good-shape
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/b...ll-ncaa-team-sheet-shows-resume-in-good-shape
What a wonderful way to ask a question. I know I'll forget some but here's a list.
Adam Harrington
Mike Jones - Parade All-American
Vot Barber - McDonald's All-American
Fast Eddie Johnson
Abdou Diame - Top 15 player, Parade All-American
Frank Ford - Parade All-American
Marco Killingsworth
Brandon Robinson
Cedrick Hordges
Mike Mitchell
Jim Krivacs (?)
Stan Pietkiewicz
Myles Patrick
Wayne Bracy
Pepto Bolden
Next Tier elite:
Steven Leven
Doc Robinson
Toney Douglas
Jeff Moore (was big time, but I don't know if he truly belongs)
Tons of other top 100 types
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Ellis was an ok coach. I wasn’t really impressed with his management of that talent. He left lots of potential out there.
Also, he had pretty much left everywhere he went under a cloud of NCAA problems so he’s not exactly procuring all of that talent at Auburn by dazzling them with Beard Eaves and the Hot Box.
Uhhh. No. Not exactly as you supposed.
We recruited primarily off of our elevated profile/visibility from the Chris Porter years, and we also brought in Mike Wilson to "do his thing". CCE has always believed in "tryin...", (real hard), though I do truly appreciate all he did for us, even if he under-achieved quite a bit, just as was predicted he would do. We were straight LOADED with talent from the Chris Porter years until the time he left for the most part.
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Damn. Didn’t realize that those former Boogs were that highly coveted.
I saw a recent interview with Christian Brown and he didn’t even mention the Boogs in his top 5 or 6. Guessing we ain’t paying a dime to anyone until some of this gets settled
I saw a recent interview with Christian Brown and he didn’t even mention the Boogs in his top 5 or 6. Guessing we ain’t paying a dime to anyone until some of this gets settled
I mean Ellis wasn't on near the level Barbee was, but not a lot of coaches were. Am I doing it right?
Adam Harrington transferred in but I guess he still counts.
We haven’t averaged one Top 100 guy a year over our history. We’ll average 2-3 a year as long as Bruce sticks around.
We haven’t averaged one Top 100 guy a year over our history. We’ll average 2-3 a year as long as Bruce sticks around.
That 2003 team with Marquis Daniels was badass!! Almost beat Carmelo in the tourney too!
We lost in ‘86 to eventual Natty winner Louisville. Lost in ‘87 to eventual Natty winner Indiana. Lost in ‘88 to eventual Natty runner up Oklahoma(who lost in huge upset to Danny Manning). And then to the Cuse who won it all in 2003. Luck of the draw....
#basketballschool Some fine info there! Didn’t realize all that!
I'm so shook over this crap. We were primed to boog for an extended period in the early 2000s before that Komara BS and now again we are dealing with this garbage. I mean the studs BRUCE was lining up for us my goodness.
Yeah. We sort of have a history of almost beating, but getting knocked out of the NCAA tourney by the eventual champion. We've given several eventual champs all they could handle. I hope we get a better draw this year.
Dang. You best me to it. I was just thinking about, and posted regarding our crappy luck of the draw.
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Even after the Komara deal, we still had massive talent, (e.g. multiple all-conference players, along with a Big-10, and an SEC player of the year, all on the same squad), but CCE couldn't quite leverage them to the fullest extent.
I always thought CJL should have kept them and rode them to a deep tourney run instead of hitting the flush button, or we could have gotten Mike Anderson and we'd have likely kept them, and potentially made a deep tourney run.
It's all water well over the dam, but our administration should learn from it....., especially given where we stand at present. It's EXTREMELY hard to amass this type of talent at Auburn, and if you want to have a winning program, you'd better take that fact into due consideration; (though I do recognize that Auburn University's interests must come first). I just don't feel that the competing concerns are mutually exclusive. If we work hard enough, and we're smart and creative enough, we can find a way to manage both/all concerns.
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Saying a few prayers right now that the evil NCAA learns a lesson in forgiveness and allows young Austin to suit up TOMORROW
Welp, the telethon should be all over now. Up to God and this committee to make things right for this hulking young stud. And if they don't the campaign to wipe the NCAA from existence begins in earnest.
I don’t think he takes over officially until late February. So I doubt he weighs in.
How would everyone like to see Pearl approach Wiley's playing time, starting tomorrow night, if he gets the green light?
Team is 17-2 and tied for first in the league. They’re not desperate for a spark or wins so I wouldn’t potentially disrupt a good thing. I’d gradually incorporate him into the rotation
I’ve said for a while I want us to gradually work him back into the lineup. We’re playing well, and Mac and Spencer have earned their PT so far. Let Austin come off the bench and be a role player for a couple games. If he shows his dominance quickly, look to alter that plan. But IMO you don’t immediately start him and risk hurting the chemistry.
I don't think we should go there yet.
5-10ish mins depending on how he looks.
Not even going to entertain the thought bc it’s not going to happen.
