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OT: I'm upset

Ok ban that one. How bout a regular shotgun or single shot rifle. Or a regular handgun? There were another 500 injured. Let's be real about the situation.
The vast majority of the X00 injured were due to the stampede to the exits, if we're being real about the situation.
 
No, but it is 22k people jammed into a tiny area. If you don't think you could fire off 300 shots from a handgun in the time it took for a crowd that large to disperse then I'm not sure you're educated enough on the subject to talk about it.
Oh my god, that’s how many people he wounded with his weapons. He’s not pulling that type of carnage off with a revolver. You’re losing your damn mind in this thread
 
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Oh my god, that’s how many people he wounded with his weapons. He’s not pulling that type of carnage off with a revolver. You’re losing your damn mind in this thread
Not really. It appears that I'm the one discussing it from a point of reason and not emotion, if you ask me. Revolver? Maybe not. Semi-auto pistol? Easily. Where did you see 300 were shot? I've only seen numbers for dead and injured. The reports I've read state that the vast majority of the injured were due to the chaos and stampeding.
 
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No. Damn dude. This isn’t from emotion at all. Thinking he could do the same damage with a pistol is rice level stupid
Ok, well I'm not going to continue having a discussion with you if you won't use logic and have to call me names. If you can't look at where he was located and where the 22k people were packed in and realized that you could indiscriminately fire in that direction for quite some time with almost any semi-auto weapon then I'm not sure what to say.

I love you brah, but you're going a little crazy on this one.

edit: I would like to see where you read that 300 were shot though, I haven't seen a confirmed number yet.
 
Not really. It appears that I'm the one discussing it from a point of reason and not emotion, if you ask me. Revolver? Maybe not. Semi-auto pistol? Easily. Where did you see 300 were shot? I've only seen numbers for dead and injured. The reports I've read state that the vast majority of the injured were due to the chaos and stampeding.
I think you're being disengenuous to infer this could happen with a 'regular' gun. Like sufficient for self/ home defense or hunting.
 
Bruh guys in the military are trained to kill with a straw. Should we ban STRAWS now???
Bruh, they were crowded like sardines. One trained ninja could have taken out a couple hundred of them with some throwing stars and a 20 pound sack of manure
Well, any chance for a rational conversation is now gone. On to the next topic.
 
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I think that came after the toddler nonsense.
Nah. If you’re gonna make an argument for guns, you shouldn’t describe them as the most easy to use things in the world like he did. He effectively said, any untrained idiot could kill people with this thing.
 
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And I'm not a big conspiracy theorist. But the idea that he just had an AR with a Bump Stock is complete horseshit to me. There's absolutely no way he could have replicated the amount, frequency, and consistency of fire from an AR with a bump stock
He had about 20 guns in the room with him. They were all fully loaded and equipped with devices that made them fully automatic.
 
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I also loved the all you need to do is go buy a book, read it, make a bomb strategy is way more effective of a way to kill people for an illiterate bozo than can buy a gun at a pawn shop
Yeah i didn't really care for those comments.

'Gun expert' guy gets me like you need to be some expert to see someone being able to own this much firepower is insane.
 
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Yeah i didn't really care for those comments.

'Gun expert' guy gets me like you need to be some expert to see someone being able to own this much firepower is insane.
Just think about it. You’d have to super reclusive and smart to pull off a bomb like that. Can you imagine pulling into your driveway with half a ton of manure and your neighbor not wondering wtf you were doing? But you could go buy a shit load of guns and hide them in a backpack. Not to mention either all the other steps it’d take to make a bomb. So much time and effort. It’d take a fuggin motivated individual to pull that off. You can whimsically shoot up a wal mart if you so chose
 
Just think about it. You’d have to super reclusive and smart to pull off a bomb like that. Can you imagine pulling into your driveway with half a ton of manure and your neighbor not wondering wtf you were doing? But you could go buy a shit load of guns and hide them in a backpack. Not to mention either all the other steps it’d take to make a bomb. So much time and effort. It’d take a fuggin motivated individual to pull that off. You can whimsically shoot up a wal mart if you so chose
Yeah it's in no way comparable for a variety of reasons. Gonna be monitored as soon as you start researching how to make one. Pretty sure those materials are tracked too.
 
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Just think about it. You’d have to super reclusive and smart to pull off a bomb like that. Can you imagine pulling into your driveway with half a ton of manure and your neighbor not wondering wtf you were doing? But you could go buy a shit load of guns and hide them in a backpack. Not to mention either all the other steps it’d take to make a bomb. So much time and effort. It’d take a fuggin motivated individual to pull that off. You can whimsically shoot up a wal mart if you so chose
You're cute when your smug yet clueless about what you're discussing.
 
You're cute when your smug yet clueless about what you're discussing.
Sweet rebuttal but you’ve not made any educated responses in this thread. Just pure conjecture and attempted patriotic hyperbole. Come back with facts or at the very least some logic and some people might begin to respect your opinions more. Your Uber authoritative approach to posting isn’t gonna work on the Greg
 
Sweet rebuttal but you’ve not made any educated responses in this thread. Just pure conjecture and attempted patriotic hyperbole. Come back with facts or at the very least some logic and some people might begin to respect your opinions more. Your Uber authoritative approach to posting isn’t gonna work on the Greg
Incorrect on the conjecture, and WTF? on the patriotic hyperbole. Also, why so serious with your last sentence? I haven't posted anything factually incorrect ITT to my knowledge. I could say that your smug condescension, even when speaking from a limited base of knowledge, isn't gonna work on the Greg but I'm not trying to be an asshole.
 
Incorrect on the conjecture, and WTF on the patriotic hyperbole. Also, why so serious with your last sentence? I haven't posted anything factually incorrect ITT to my knowledge. I could say that your smug condescension, even when speaking from a limited base of knowledge, isn't gonna work on the Greg but I'm not trying to be an asshole.
You seemed to infer that anyone who disagreed with the current constitution was an idiot. I’d call that patriotic hyperbole. You also claimed that anyone could pull off the same level of carnage with a pistol. That’s hyperbolic and completely illogical. Not to mention your claims that’s creating manure based bombs were super effective and easier to kill people than with guns. Please get real on saying you haven’t used conjecture in here. Good lord
 
You seemed to infer that anyone who disagreed with the current constitution was an idiot. I’d call that patriotic hyperbole. You also claimed that anyone could pull off the same level of carnage with a pistol. That’s hyperbolic and completely illogical. Not to mention your claims that’s creating manure based bombs were super effective and easier to kill people than with guns. Please get real on saying you haven’t used conjecture in here. Good lord
* You seemed to infer that anyone who disagreed with the current constitution was an idiot. - No, I did not. Feel free to point out where I did so.

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You also claimed that anyone could pull off the same level of carnage with a pistol. From an elevated position, I believe that you could easily shoot 60 people out of 22,000.

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Not to mention your claims that’s creating manure based bombs were super effective and easier to kill people than with guns. I never said manure, that was the word you used. I said fertilizer, as in concentrated ammonium nitrate, which can be bought from any farm co-op in the country. In the middle of a mass of 22,000 people even a small ammonium nitrate bomb would've killed and injured more people. That's not conjecture, it's science.
 
Yeah I'm reading the dude had 60-100 round clips and basically a fully automatic weapon after modification. But alas the founders wanted us to have these so who are we to disagree?
 
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Yikes. Shaking my head at Thrust right now. Dude has lost it. And completely not addressed the points made. Rice level stuff, but that’s no surprise
 
Yikes. Shaking my head at Thrust right now. Dude has lost it. And completely not addressed the points made. Rice level stuff, but that’s no surprise
I'm sorry you don't agree with the facts, however that doesn't change that they're facts. As far as the points you made that I've not addressed, which are those? Why are you resorting to having to compare me to rice instead of just providing facts that show I'm incorrect?
 
I'm all for anyone owning a musket or long rifle like the founders had fwiw. Assuming they pass a background check of course.
 
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I'm sorry you don't agree with the facts, however that doesn't change that they're facts. As far as the points you made that I've not addressed, which are those? Why are you resorting to having to compare me to rice instead of just providing facts that show I'm incorrect?
You haven’t provided any facts you idiot. Literally no citations or anything. And everything you’ve postulated has been totally illogical. Quit being dense
 
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