I swear Thrust has turned into Rice. He just came at me with the “sorry you don’t agree with the facts” argument when he’s literally provided no facts.
OT: I'm upset
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Maybe the Greg isn’t the place for you. You’d be best on some idiot board where people actually believe you sound smart
No one should be runt off The Greg. If everyone had the same opinion, it would get stale and boring.
Again with the rice comparisons? Ok, if you'd like facts here are some facts for you. Remember that we're talking about a shooter with an elevated position and clear line of sight.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...can_you_shoot_a_handgun_in_seven_minutes.html
I had no idea you had so much pent up hostility for me. It's quite possible I'm not as smart as you but I do ok for myself.
Not trying to run off anyone but the dude is making all sorts of idiotic claims and assumptions.
If I may here's my gripe:
-Hiding behind the 2nd amendment
-Equating anything that could be used to kill someone (hammer) with a gun.
- saying you could do as much damage with a common handgun as was/ can be done with an automatic assault rifle with high capacity magazines.
I just don't see any legitimate reason this stuff should be legal. If the zombie apocalypse comes I'd reconsider.
Some further facts about the maximum effective range of a handgun bullet are in the link below. Remember, accuracy is not that big of deal when shooting into a crowd of 22,000.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-effective-range-of-a-9mm-round-fired-from-a-handgun
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-effective-range-of-a-9mm-round-fired-from-a-handgun
Look buddy, I don’t mind you one bit. And I like you. But I do think you’re intelligent enough to have the self awareness that some of your claims were backed by nothing but conjecture. I guess you think differently, but I saw zero evidence
I'm not "hiding behind the 2nd amedment". I view the entirety of the Constitution and Bill of Rights as...rights. There is a process to change the constitution if enough people feel it needs to be changed. If the proper process is followed I would have no problem with it being changed. Until then, gun ownership is a right.
The point of the hammer comment, which you and MITS and others obviously missed, was that a tool only does what it's operated to do. Somewhere around 99.9% of legal gun owners have never killed anyone with their gun.
See above for your third point.
In a discussion such as this? I don't see the problem. As I said earlier, feel free to provide any evidence that counters the facts as I've stated them.
Just because I like you though:
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DomnaAntoniadis.shtml
To be fair, we are all full of our own idiotic claims and assumptions. We express them as long as we stay within the guidelines of the Greg and we choose to let those claims and assumptions guide us when we choose to cast a vote or choose not to vote. Democracy at work peoples. Even though we live in a Republic. Gots to love it.
There’s really nothing else to cite other than England and Australia’s murder rate. Have they been bombing the shit out of each other with cow poop? No
Wait, now we're talking murder rate? Seems like a different topic that would require us to dig into socio-economic, racial, cultural, and religious data to thoroughly discuss.
I'd rather not switch topics though, not in the middle of a discussion as good as this one.
MITS yore attacks on Thrust are kind of bullshit here my man, you can debate with the rice comparisons. That's low bruh.
Okay, let’s stick to mass murder. How many people have been mass murdered by cow shit in Europe?
No. They’re reasonable. He’s literally provided no evidence for his claims. That’s Rice
No. I’ve just asked questions and you give totally idiotic rebuttals to but act like they’re reasoned and intelligent. Congrats on citing quora. That’s honestly dumber than Rice
I don't think anyone is really against gun ownership. It's the whole thing like it's people's god given right to stockpile an arsenal cause the founders.
If people didn't break the law you wouldn't need any laws. I got your point on the hammer but it's a bad one.
Makes no difference what that article says.
An automatic rifle with 100 round mags is gonna do more damage than a handgun suitable for self defense.
The dude is to the point where he’s citing Quora. It’s only worth laughing about now to be honest. And I like the guy, but he needs to just bow out here
Yeah the astronomical difference in gun homocides between the US and the rest of society doesn't really require much of a deep dive. Pretty obvious it's the gun culture here.
I noticed you haven't mentioned any of the other sources I cited through my second link. Are they all not to be believed as well?
I just need some oulde redneck from tbb to call me a libtard so I can feel complete here. Kind of in limbo till then.
Still learning the ways of the GREG.
Still learning the ways of the GREG.
I noticed you haven’t even addressed the fact that countries with gun bans don’t have rises of maniacs creating manure bombs. Please. You are so dumb here that it’s insane
I'm not really arguing against that. I'm simply stating that a tiny fraction of people who commit crimes with guns have purchased them legally. If you're truly in favor of gun control, which I am more or less, then you'd start with better enforcement of existing laws. You're not going to get very far in this country trying to slow down the legal purchase of firearms but you might be able to make some real progress if you could cut into the illegal possession of firearms.
Gang, Australia and England have had tons of illiterate idiots reading a book and creating s bomb and blowing up people
I'm not dumb enough to overlook the obvious differences between the US and those countries when it comes to culture, race, socio-economics, etc. It is not simply a matter of is gun ownership legal or not. I do not take you for a simpleton but the above statement is a little disconcerting.
Gang, hammer crimes are also absurd there too. I’m sure Thrust can provide the Quora facts about them
That'll do. Goodnight everyone!
I'm actually a fairly staunch conservative except for gun laws.
I actually just voted for a Democrat in a special election for a vacated State House of Representative seat. I have voted Democrat, Republican, and Libertarian within the last 3 years depending on who I felt the best (or least worst) candidate was.
Yes but this completely conflicts with your precious argument that people will always be motivated to harm other people. And that’s false. Your dumbass hammer assumption started all this and then you doubled down on it
No one care what or who you voted for. You sound like an idiot in this thread
I feel ya. I am center left on most things but get called a Pub at every turn. May be our deliveries that send the wrong vibes out there.
