Post Game Thread: LSU

[MomentInTheSun]

Not gonna go through all the players like I've done the past two games. No real reason to. This one was on Gus and Chip as the end of the 3rd and the whole 4th quarter were just dumb. Boobie Whitlow and Seth Williams were the two guys that were helping move the chains during and then they were completely abandoned. Why why why why why why why? Just taking deep shots when kaleb kim clearly couldn't handle their pressure. Blame JB Grimes if you want, but Gus and Chip were putting the kid in awful situations with their plays.

Here's to steam rolling the whole schedule up till UGA injury free and getting my hopes up again.

 

[Ser Sweater Vest]

Grades:

QB - D
RB - C
O line - F
WR - B-
Kaleb Kim - go home

LBs - B
DTs- B
DE- D
CB- D
S- C-

 

[Denim Vest]

In the pecking order of Gus debacles it wasn’t that bad really. Maybe I’m just numb to it now. Oh well whatever.

Of course Gus and the O sucked but I thought the D would bale us out. Their QB didn’t suck nearly as bad as I thought he would.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

In the pecking order of Gus debacles it wasn’t that bad really. Maybe I’m just numb to it now. Oh well whatever.

Of course Gus and the O sucked but I thought the D would bale us out. Their QB didn’t suck nearly as bad as I thought he would.

The defense wasn’t that bad. Gave up less than 400 yds of offense. Both LSU scored off both interceptions and capitalized on some dubious penalties

 

[WDE_Tarp]

As I said at the end of last year, many people didn't realize how good our safeties were. Not a point worth arguing again but I thought they were the best two safeties Auburn had on the field at the same time in a long time at Auburn. Last year we had two Boom recruited corners and we could handle a lot of man. Now we have one and a guy who has been playing corner for 6 months. We lost the most important guy to our pass rush and he left early and didn't get drafted. If your coaches can't convince a guy who isn't going to get drafted to stay another year wtf are they even doing? We should be pretty strong against the run all year, but I don't know how many teams that even helps us against.

Offensively it starts with the line. Neither of our OL coaches have evaluated very well. Sometimes the guys we sign have stars, but they almost never deserve them. Boobie is going to end up being a very good back, but all our rivals are signing multiple elite guys not just really good ones. Stidham is a front runner. If things are going well, he does well. When things go poorly he falls apart. WRs look good. We have no identity offensively. Gus wants to run, Chip wants to pass. And we never seem in a rhythm. Even when we put together a nice scoring drive it feels more like we happened to hit jackpot than a drive where a team just executed the plays they are good at.

Regardless of where we end up in recruiting rankings, the roster always has holes. Last year it was RB. We only had one guy we trusted and when he got hurt it ended our season painfully. This year it's the OL and secondary. I have a feeling next year will be DL and possibly QB.

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

As I said at the end of last year, many people didn't realize how good our safeties were. Not a point worth arguing again but I thought they were the best two safeties Auburn had on the field at the same time in a long time at Auburn. Last year we had two Boom recruited corners and we could handle a lot of man. Now we have one and a guy who has been playing corner for 6 months. We lost the most important guy to our pass rush and he left early and didn't get drafted. If your coaches can't convince a guy who isn't going to get drafted to stay another year wtf are they even doing? We should be pretty strong against the run all year, but I don't know how many teams that even helps us against.

Offensively it starts with the line. Neither of our OL coaches have evaluated very well. Sometimes the guys we sign have stars, but they almost never deserve them. Boobie is going to end up being a very good back, but all our rivals are signing multiple elite guys not just really good ones. Stidham is a front runner. If things are going well, he does well. When things go poorly he falls apart. WRs look good. We have no identity offensively. Gus wants to run, Chip wants to pass. And we never seem in a rhythm. Even when we put together a nice scoring drive it feels more like we happened to hit jackpot than a drive where a team just executed the plays they are good at.

Regardless of where we end up in recruiting rankings, the roster always has holes. Last year it was RB. We only had one guy we trusted and when he got hurt it ended our season painfully. This year it's the OL and secondary. I have a feeling next year will be DL and possibly QB.

Got. Dam. All of this. This is everything I've been saying about this team and program. I love you @WDE_Tarp.

My $.02:

OL: made up of a bunch of scrubs. We haven't recruited well at OL since Jeff Grimes was here.

QB: weak-minded. Needs an infinity pocket on every play and hears footsteps in his sleep. When he has time, he's better than decent.

RB: Shivers and Whitlow should be taking 90% of the snaps at RB for the rest of the season. Neither are elite, but both are very good.

WR: Talent but completely wasted in this high school offense.

TE: There's no point in Gus signing them. Wasted scholarship, even though the catch against UDub was nice.

HB: Chandler Cox has reached his peak. It's decent.

DL: Good, but not elite right now.

LB: Best corps we've had in quite some time.

CB: We have 1 on the whole team.

S: OMGWTFBBQ???~~!!@@!!???

Offensive Coaching: D-
Defensive Coaching: B+

 

[MomentInTheSun]

As I said at the end of last year, many people didn't realize how good our safeties were. Not a point worth arguing again but I thought they were the best two safeties Auburn had on the field at the same time in a long time at Auburn. Last year we had two Boom recruited corners and we could handle a lot of man. Now we have one and a guy who has been playing corner for 6 months. We lost the most important guy to our pass rush and he left early and didn't get drafted. If your coaches can't convince a guy who isn't going to get drafted to stay another year wtf are they even doing? We should be pretty strong against the run all year, but I don't know how many teams that even helps us against.

Offensively it starts with the line. Neither of our OL coaches have evaluated very well. Sometimes the guys we sign have stars, but they almost never deserve them. Boobie is going to end up being a very good back, but all our rivals are signing multiple elite guys not just really good ones. Stidham is a front runner. If things are going well, he does well. When things go poorly he falls apart. WRs look good. We have no identity offensively. Gus wants to run, Chip wants to pass. And we never seem in a rhythm. Even when we put together a nice scoring drive it feels more like we happened to hit jackpot than a drive where a team just executed the plays they are good at.

Regardless of where we end up in recruiting rankings, the roster always has holes. Last year it was RB. We only had one guy we trusted and when he got hurt it ended our season painfully. This year it's the OL and secondary. I have a feeling next year will be DL and possibly QB.

I'm all on team boobie and I think the class of RB they just signed is gonna be legit for a few years. Whitlow has a chance to be AU's most complete back since the tubs days imo. I'm really impressed with him and you can tell that his vision and patience just gets better every game. Plus he moves a fuggin pile like a man.

I'm not worried about the DL next year. As I think the thing we're missing this year is a dominant pass rusher and I'm optimistic that one will emerge between Big Cat, Moultry and Jibornur next season. As of right now, Only Brown and Russel are big pieces that'll leave. The homer in me thinks it's possible that the DL could be better next season if Coe moves back to SDE and Marlon moves inside.

QB, yeah, most likely gonna take a step back. But even though Stidham is probably the best pure passer that AU has had in my lifetime, he's such a liability in the pocket with the way he causes negative plays. Sandberg already looks like he's a way better runner. But who knows.

 

[Fillup Marschell]

Defense:
I trust KS to get it where it needs to be. A good to great defense can only cover so many sins of an offense. Over the past 2-3 years, the D has put this team in a position to won games.

Offense:
Stid: He has the yips and that is not likely to change. Nothing wrong with his arm or accuracy. He doesn’t go through progressions but I am not sure the system is designed for him to.
WRs do not help him out but I am not sure they have been taugh / are taught to adlib when protection breaks down. I think the design is execute to where we tell you this play should execute or throw it away.
When Gus does not have a dynamic black DT QB this is his offense and the result. A specific playbook is put together each week and they trust in those play selections. If a defense has an answer to it, there is very little room to adjust.
I was a little disappointed in the play selections they went with. Not a lot of quick throws or mid range throws. Some but it was almost like we have a check list for the mid range throws and once we complete one, we bury it the rest of the game.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

Defense:
I trust KS to get it where it needs to be. A good to great defense can only cover so many sins of an offense. Over the past 2-3 years, the D has put this team in a position to won games.

Offense:
Stid: He has the yips and that is not likely to change. Nothing wrong with his arm or accuracy. He doesn’t go through progressions but I am not sure the system is designed for him to.
WRs do not help him out but I am not sure they have been taugh / are taught to adlib when protection breaks down. I think the design is execute to where we tell you this play should execute or throw it away.
When Gus does not have a dynamic black DT QB this is his offense and the result. A specific playbook is put together each week and they trust in those play selections. If a defense has an answer to it, there is very little room to adjust.
I was a little disappointed in the play selections they went with. Not a lot of quick throws or mid range throws. Some but it was almost like we have a check list for the mid range throws and once we complete one, we bury it the rest of the game.

yeah. I'm not sure why they abandoned the throws over the middle of the field. They had success with it with two passes to Seth williams for good gains. And almost had another huge one on a quick slant but Ryan Davis dropped it. Seems like there was plenty of space there as Gary kept pointing out that LSU was rushing their MLB a lot.

 

[ThrustMaxwell]

From StatTiger:
StatTiger 1,097

Game #3 Statistical Evaluation (LSU Game)

Offensive Report Card

01) Avg 6-yards per play on 1st down: [5.7.2] fail
02) Convert at least 40% of 3rd downs: [33.3%] fail
03) Avg at least 4.5 yards per rush: [3.4] fail
04) Score on at least 1/3 of possessions: [23.1%] fail
05) Keep 3 and out series under 33%: [30.8%] pass
06) Average 8.0 yards per pass attempt: [7.1 yds] fail
07) Score at least 75% inside red zone: [75.%] pass
08) TD red zone above 60%: [75.0%] pass
09) Avg at least 30-yards per possession: [35.0 yds] pass
10) 40% of offensive snaps part of scoring drives: [39.4%] fail
11) TD / Turnover ratio above 1.6: [3/2] fail
12) TD ratio of at least 1 every 17 snaps: [22.0] fail
13) At least 8 impact plays: (6) fail
14) At least 2 big plays: [1] fail
15) Pass rating of at least 126.3: [114.0] fail
16) Yards to Point Ratio of 14.0 or under: [15.6] fail

Score: 4 of 16 (25.0%) fail



Defensive Report Card:

01) Avg under 6-yards per play on 1st down: [6,81] fail
02) Convert below 35% of 3rd downs: [36.8%] fail
03) Avg at least 4.0 yards per rush or less: [2.9] pass
04) Score 1/3 of possessions or below: [38.5%] fail
05) Keep 3 and out series above 33%: [30.8%] fail
06) Average below 7.5 yards per pass attempt: [7.1 yds] pass
07) Score below 75% inside red zone: [100.0%] fail
08) TD red zone below 60%: [33.3%] pass
09) Avg under 30-yards per possession: [36.2 yds] fail
10) 40% or less of offensive snaps part of scoring drives: [53.2%] fail
11) TD / Turnover ratio below 1.6: [2/0] fail
12) TD ratio of at least 1 every 30 snaps: [38.5] pass
13) Less than 8 impact plays: (5) pass
14) No more than 2 big plays allowed: (3) fail
15) Pass rating below 125.0: [112.0] pass
16) Yards to point ratio of 18.0 or higher: [16.8] fail

Score: 6 of 16 (37.5%) Fail



Special Teams Report Card:

1) Punt Average (Above 41.3): [47.0] pass
2) Punt Return Defense (Below 7.8 YPR): [4.0] pass
3) Punt Return Offense (Above 9.8 YPR): [8.0] fail
4) Kick-Return Defense (Below 21.2 YPR): [0.0] pass
5) Kick-Return Offense (Above 22.3 YPR): [36.0] pass
6) PAT’s (100%): [3 / 3] pass
7) FG Pct (75% or above): [0.0%] fail

Score: 5 of 7 (71.4%) Pass

* 50% is a passing score.

It was a sloppy beginning and a sloppy ending that was too much for the Auburn Tigers to overcome. Auburn's inability to consistently run the football hindered a Gus Malzahn offense reliant upon establishing the run. The primary difference in the game was turnovers and third down. Auburn's inability to generate the big play will continue to haunt the Tigers unless the coaching staff finds a way of making such plays. Through three games, Auburn has produced only one play over 40-yards. In a physical matchup, Auburn needed to reclaim its offensive identity; the Tigers failed miserably. Auburn has yet to establish their running game against an FBS opponent, which is essential for setting up the deep throws over the top.

LSU won the line of scrimmage when it came to pass protection and Auburn is not as dominant up front as portrayed by the media this season. Much like the Washington game, Auburn could not establish a consistent pass-rush unless they blitzed, something Kevin Steele would rather not depend upon. The defense remained on the field and could not end drives when it was needed the most. Once again, turnovers and penalties plagued the Auburn football team and they are not good enough to overcome these issues against a worthy opponent. Auburn did manage to overcome a 10-0 deficit to build a 21-10 third-quarter lead. Auburn attempted to remain aggressive in their play-calling, but it was likely more of a necessity due to the lack of a consistent running game.

Auburn overcame a heart-breaking loss last season to LSU to win the west, so there is plenty to play for this early in the season. This loss, however, is different from last season because Auburn did not become conservative after building a 20-0 lead. The concern moving forward is a weak offensive line, the lack of a running game and a defense that allows more big plays than they generate. Hopefully, there will be enough leadership on this team to focus on improving because "finger pointing" will only compound Auburn's current issues. If Auburn is going to improve, it will need to begin up front and on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

War Eagle!

https://www.aufamily.com/forums/topic/163969-lsu-game-report-card/

 

[ShenaniganZ]

Defense:
I trust KS to get it where it needs to be. A good to great defense can only cover so many sins of an offense. Over the past 2-3 years, the D has put this team in a position to won games.

Offense:
Stid: He has the yips and that is not likely to change. Nothing wrong with his arm or accuracy. He doesn’t go through progressions but I am not sure the system is designed for him to.
WRs do not help him out but I am not sure they have been taugh / are taught to adlib when protection breaks down. I think the design is execute to where we tell you this play should execute or throw it away.
When Gus does not have a dynamic black DT QB this is his offense and the result. A specific playbook is put together each week and they trust in those play selections. If a defense has an answer to it, there is very little room to adjust.
I was a little disappointed in the play selections they went with. Not a lot of quick throws or mid range throws. Some but it was almost like we have a check list for the mid range throws and once we complete one, we bury it the rest of the game.

Reported.

Spoiler

for "dynamic"

 

[Fatz Geronimo]

In the pecking order of Gus debacles it wasn’t that bad really. Maybe I’m just numb to it now. Oh well whatever.

Of course Gus and the O sucked but I thought the D would bale us out. Their QB didn’t suck nearly as bad as I thought he would.

yeah... we just got beat - which is on Gus, but it was a team Gusplosion, not just an offensive meltdown as things devolved into lunacy

maybe that’s worse though... maybe his incompetence has slowly infected the entire team

regardless, as much as it sucked yesterday, it’s nice to be completely done with football this early to clear plenty of space to focus on BRUCE

 

[jeramye]

Defense:

I was a little disappointed in the play selections they went with. Not a lot of quick throws or mid range throws. Some but it was almost like we have a check list for the mid range throws and once we complete one, we bury it the rest of the game.

This is and has been my issue, even with the addition of Chip. We throw a few more of the intermediate routes now than we did pre-Chip, but we almost throw them at token throws to say we did it and hope the defense changes the way it plays. They don't, because they know this bunch won't keep going to the well on those plays. It's why every times someone brags on our WR talent I say we don't have a WR#1. We don't. RD23 gets a lot of touches but they aren't WR#1 routes. He's getting a ton of underneath stuff and that's fine, he's a great complementary WR. But we have NCM and Seth Williams and they'll get 0-4 touches per game basically, sometimes combined. We just don't throw the ball in a way that uses that talent. We're going to take deep shots and throw WR screens and not build any intermediate game really. This WR corp would be insane in an 2008 level Bobby Petrino offense. You'd have Seth and NCM eating up 5+ catches a game each. You'd have our speed guys stretching the field and our quick twitch guys catching underneath stuff and breaking into the open field. But that's not how this offense is built and it's going to waste the talent we have there. Still not sure how we have kept landing this WR talent.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

This is and has been my issue, even with the addition of Chip. We throw a few more of the intermediate routes now than we did pre-Chip, but we almost throw them at token throws to say we did it and hope the defense changes the way it plays. They don't, because they know this bunch won't keep going to the well on those plays. It's why every times someone brags on our WR talent I say we don't have a WR#1. We don't. RD23 gets a lot of touches but they aren't WR#1 routes. He's getting a ton of underneath stuff and that's fine, he's a great complementary WR. But we have NCM and Seth Williams and they'll get 0-4 touches per game basically, sometimes combined. We just don't throw the ball in a way that uses that talent. We're going to take deep shots and throw WR screens and not build any intermediate game really. This WR corp would be insane in an 2008 level Bobby Petrino offense. You'd have Seth and NCM eating up 5+ catches a game each. You'd have our speed guys stretching the field and our quick twitch guys catching underneath stuff and breaking into the open field. But that's not how this offense is built and it's going to waste the talent we have there. Still not sure how we have kept landing this WR talent.

Post moar

 

[AuWaterfowl]

I didn't watch the game. I went dove hunting instead. It looks like I made the right choice even thought it was hot as Rick out there.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I didn't watch the game. I went dove hunting instead. It looks like I made the right choice even thought it was hot as Rick out there.

I will not miss another golden opportunity to hit the links this season.

 

[AuWaterfowl]

This weekend, I'll either be skiing at Lake Martin or baling hay. I know it's two different extremes but that's my life.

 

[jeramye]

Post moar

I'll be around more now that football has started and hoops is around the corner. I had to lay off some at the end of the summer, the guessing about everything just gets old for me now. Give me games to talk about and I'm in.

 

[AURichmond]

I think ultimately, the positive we can draw from this is that Gus can only cause us to lose to LSU, 3 maybe 4 more times max. I assume he’ll be at AU thru the 2021 season. So, 18, 19, 20, 21. 9 full seasons at AU. With an expectation of 4.5 loss/yr avg, we are looking at 17 - 20 ish more losses for a Gus driven AU. I know I’m rounding a bit, but I can’t contain the optimism.

Is it possible he achieves the 18 game total prior to the end of 21? Very plausible, especially when you throw in the consistency of his bowl performances. Guys, Gus is an overachiever. Dude may hit 18 in the 20 season. I never doubt that man. A few 5 loss seasons, drop a bowl or two, and BAM. We’re there!

Would AU part ways w Gus sooner than the end of the 21 season? I think we all know the answer to that. Let’s not get too rainbowy around here.

Is 18 losses too modest of a number? I’ll defer to you guys. Is that enough to get fired these days? I mean. Dude did just win an SECC appearance T-shirt.

I’m rambling. It’s late.

 

[L I G E R]

Really hope George Pickens comes to his senses and signs with a program that will actually develop him and utilize his talents. He needs to RUN from Auburn if he values his future.

Would hate to see NCM’s fate become his own.

 

[cookedw]

Really hope George Pickens comes to his senses and signs with a program that will actually develop him and utilize his talents. He needs to RUN from Auburn if he values his future.

Would hate to see NCM’s fate become his own.

This is such a silly mindset. I will never understand it.

 

[L I G E R]

This is such a silly mindset. I will never understand it.

George is an NFL talent, much like NCM. He needs to make the best decision possible for his football future if he wants to showcase his abilities in college and play in the pros.

He simply won't have nearly as good a chance here as he would at countless other schools.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

What makes anyone think Ncm is an elite talent other than his recruiting ranking?

 

[L I G E R]

What makes anyone think Ncm is an elite talent other than his recruiting ranking?

He has NFL size and speed, is a hellacious blocker, he has the best hands on the team, catches the vast majority of catchable targets (unless interfered with), and is excellent after the catch?

And he could've gone anywhere in the country, including Alabama.

Other than that? Nothing.

 

[cookedw]

He has NFL size and speed, is a hellacious blocker, he has the best hands on the team, catches the vast majority of catchable targets (unless interfered with), and is excellent after the catch?

And he could've gone anywhere in the country, including Alabama.

Other than that? Nothing.

Yea, Im not sure that is completely accurate.

You always been really high on Craig, but I think you way overvalue him and that is becoming more evident this year. Is NCM a good players? Sure. But he has lost targets to incoming Freshman that seem to be better.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

He has NFL size and speed, is a hellacious blocker, he has the best hands on the team, catches the vast majority of catchable targets (unless interfered with), and is excellent after the catch?

And he could've gone anywhere in the country, including Alabama.

Other than that? Nothing.

He’s pretty slow. I don’t think he has anything close to nfl speed but I guess we’ll see at AU’s pro day. Great hands but he clearly struggles a lot to get any separation

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I will be very interested to see NCM's numbers at a pro day. I could see Gus just not liking him or something, or maybe he never completely recovered from that injury and lost some of his speed.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

or maybe he never completely recovered from that injury and lost some of his speed.

This is what I think happened. The coaches clearly like him though bc he’s such a willing blocker. Just don’t think he’s as explosive as he was as JR in high school

 

[WDE_Tarp]

This is what I think happened. The coaches clearly like him though bc he’s such a willing blocker. Just don’t think he’s as explosive as he was as JR in high school

I think it's completely plausible. I also think that Gus's offense right now has 3 positions he values. Deep threat guy, speed sweep guy, and screen guy. NCM could be an NFL possession receiver and it would be tough for us to know because of how little Gus uses the middle of the field. Also, as we saw against LSU, what little stuff he has to attack the middle of the field gets used again and again and now defenses are prepared for it. Both are plausible in my mind, and I really don't know how we could know the difference.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

He has NFL size and speed, is a hellacious blocker, he has the best hands on the team, catches the vast majority of catchable targets (unless interfered with), and is excellent after the catch?

And he could've gone anywhere in the country, including Alabama.

Other than that? Nothing.

Supposedly, he can’t get open. Not quick enough and can’t create separation from DBs. At least that’s what’s been said by “insiders” from seeing practices the last 2-3 years. My thought is we don’t scheme well enough to get him or really any of our WRs open other than RDavis. Davis and FR Seth Williams seem to be the only two guys that are open consistently, and I think part of that is because we’re running plays designed for them to be open.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

Overall, the game sucked. It was hot as fvck, miserable in the stands, and frustrating to watch us constantly get into bad spots on both sides of the ball. Offensively, early miscues and late offensive stalls were our undoing. The defense played way too much of the first half and couldn’t get off the field late. Some of that was their own problem for not getting off the field on third down in the first half when they had chances.

I put some of this on Steele for not finding more pressure on the QB and scheming to protect the DBs more. I put some of it on Chip/Gus for the offensive inconsistencies early and late. We did seem to make some adjustments during the game that jump started the offense, which was good, and I didn’t think we got conservative with the play calling. Just thought the sequencing was strange/wrong at times.

But I put most of this game on the players for not stepping up and making plays. LSU has guys make individual plays. Auburn didn’t. Stidham didn’t make enough plays. Davis had a drop that could’ve yielded a big play on a slant. No one on the DL made any impact plays in the pass rush like some of the LSU DL did. No DB made a play to break up a pass or come up with an INT. Ultimately, I think this one is on the players with some coaching deficiencies sprinkled in.

 

[Van Gorstache]

This weekend, I'll either be skiing at Lake Martin or baling hay. I know it's two different extremes but that's my life.

 

[MomentInTheSun]

I don’t think anything is specifically schemed for Ryan Davis. I just think he’s got really quick feet, good hands, and gets in and out of his breaks better than any receiver AU’s had in awhile. I could be wrong but wasn’t he actually even rated higher in the rankings than NCM or any other reviver for that matter? Shouldn’t be a “surprise “ that he’s good. He and Hastings though move the chains and are incredibly hard to cover 1 on 1 on quick routes

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

I don’t think anything is specifically schemed for Ryan Davis. I just think he’s got really quick feet, good hands, and gets in and out of his breaks better than any receiver AU’s had in awhile. I could be wrong but wasn’t he actually even rated higher in the rankings than NCM or any other reviver for that matter? Shouldn’t be a “surprise “ that he’s good. He and Hastings though move the chains and are incredibly hard to cover 1 on 1 on quick routes

Oh I do. I do think those characteristics you list are reasons why we target him more, but I think we run plays where we’re isolating RD to get him the ball besides the obvious screen plays. The first INT was a play designed specifically for him, probably because he’s such a crisp route runner. The last offensive play we ran is designed to go to him IMO. I think there are more besides the screens, but those are the two I remember most and that I’ve focused on most the last 2-3 days.

And I’m not necessarily complaining about that. I just think we could spread it around more and utilize some other players’ skill sets.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I don’t think anything is specifically schemed for Ryan Davis. I just think he’s got really quick feet, good hands, and gets in and out of his breaks better than any receiver AU’s had in awhile. I could be wrong but wasn’t he actually even rated higher in the rankings than NCM or any other reviver for that matter? Shouldn’t be a “surprise “ that he’s good. He and Hastings though move the chains and are incredibly hard to cover 1 on 1 on quick routes

I would actually say almost every way we get him the ball is schemed specifically for him. Obviously every screen he gets is designed for him, and that is a large percentage of his targets. This past Saturday is one of the few times I remember targeting him deep, which I think we should run the Hastings double move route with him more often because of his ability to change direction.

 

[cookedw]

Supposedly, he can’t get open. Not quick enough and can’t create separation from DBs. At least that’s what’s been said by “insiders” from seeing practices the last 2-3 years. My thought is we don’t scheme well enough to get him or really any of our WRs open other than RDavis. Davis and FR Seth Williams seem to be the only two guys that are open consistently, and I think part of that is because we’re running plays designed for them to be open.

And Schwartz

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

And Schwartz

Yeah, I think he could be in that category too along win Hastings (who I didn’t mention because of the injury and not playing much this year). I just didn’t include him because we haven’t really seen a ton from him other than the deep ball against ASU in which he did get himself open and maybe 1-2 other chances. I do think, given more opportunities, he could be a really good, complete WR based on the little bit we’ve seen from him.

Really excited about our group of young WRs, including the incoming freshmen. Between the four current FR and JJ and Pickens, that group could be dirty dirty next year with Stidham or Nix at QB.

 

[cookedw]

Yeah, I think he could be in that category too along win Hastings (who I didn’t mention because of the injury and not playing much this year). I just didn’t include him because we haven’t really seen a ton from him other than the deep ball against ASU in which he did get himself open and maybe 1-2 other chances. I do think, given more opportunities, he could be a really good, complete WR based on the little bit we’ve seen from him.

Really excited about our group of young WRs, including the incoming freshmen. Between the four current FR and JJ and Pickens, that group could be dirty dirty next year with Stidham or Nix at QB.

That corner/out route he ran against LSU (and caught the ball) was a thing of beauty. I have probably been most impressed with this ability to make people miss in space. I kind of assume he would be just more of a straight-line speed type of guy, but that doesn't appear to the case.

when we signed, I originally was of the mindset that he would never finish his football career at Auburn, but he is more of a "football player" than I thought.

 

[Muttonchop]

Losing is bad. Losing, and having to hear Gary spew nonsense makes it even worse. But, at least you didn't have Rod "Pole Smoker" Gilmore on the call, last weekend. Here's hoping for better results all around, this weekend.

 

[L I G E R]

Supposedly, he can’t get open. Not quick enough and can’t create separation from DBs. At least that’s what’s been said by “insiders” from seeing practices the last 2-3 years.

Most of our “insiders” are idiots, are full of shit, or a combination of both... with some rare exceptions.

Take whatever they say with a HUGE grain of salt.

My thought is we don’t scheme well enough to get him or really any of our WRs open other than RDavis. Davis and FR Seth Williams seem to be the only two guys that are open consistently, and I think part of that is because we’re running plays designed for them to be open.

This is 100% what’s happening and it’s fvcking amateurish bullshit.