Post Game Thread: LSU
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I don't know man. Rod Gilmore is just all around bad at his job. Both are bad though.
I think back to my childhood, and guys calling games were so much better, than what we have today. Fewer hot takes, less obvious bias, less agendas pushed. Generally speaking, better informed guys. ESPN radio now has that Matt dude from the Kentucky site doing NFL pregame. Seriously.
More follow-up from StatTiger:
Posted Sunday at 03:30 PM
* During the past two games, Auburn is 1 of 4 on third downs during the first quarter and 0 of 6 during the fourth quarter. One of 10 is not a good way to start and finish a game.
* Allowing big plays have been an issue with Kevin Steele's defense. During 2014, Auburn allowed a play of 30-yards or more every 65.4 snaps. It dropped to 1 every 44.2 plays in 2016 and to 1 every 36.8 plays during 2017. This season, the current ratio is one every 29.4 plays, the second-worst rate by an Auburn defense the past 30 years.
* Three times against LSU, Auburn forced the visiting Tigers to begin possessions more than 75-yards away from the Auburn end zone. On all three occasions, LSU was able to drive the ball into scoring territory, gaining 175-yards on 32 plays. Auburn's inability to get the LSU offense off the field resulted in an average starting field position at their own 25-yard line and not one single short field for the Auburn offense to take advantage of yesterday. In a 1-point loss, it is easy to point the finger and many things that could be described as being the difference in the game. IMO, this was a huge factor in the game.
* Last season Auburn averaged 7.2 yards per pass attempt, throwing within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage. This season the average has dropped down to 5.6 yards per attempt. Opposing teams have dialed into Auburn's short game since the Alabama game in 2017. During the last five games, Auburn has attempted 70 passes within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage for 5.0 yards per attempt. The screen game has been neutralized but I do credit to Chip Lindsey for getting away from it early in the game.
* Auburn is now 12-0 when Jarrett Stidham has a pass rating of 130 or better and 0-5 when he does not. During his tenure at Auburn, Stidham has completed only 35.8 percent of his passes thrown beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage. With Auburn needing the return of the big play, Stidham needs to leave his comfort zone and be more aggressive throwing the deeper routes.
* Regarding vertical passing beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage:
Newton (2010): 44.4% for 39.9 yards per completion
Marshall (2013): 28.3% for 505.5 yards per completion
Marshall (2014): 39.7% for 42.2 yards per completion
Marshall (2014 / last 6 games of season): 55.6% for 45.9 yards per completion
White (2015): 34.5% for 38.5 yards per completion
Johnson (2015): 35.0% for 44.0 yards per completion
White (2016): 51.6% for 34.8 yards per completion
Stidham (2017): 34.5% for 42.0 yards per completion
Stidham (2018): 41.6% for 33.0 yards per completion
* The running back rotation is beginning to take shape as Kam Martin saw limited against LSU. For the season, 61.3 percent of Kam Martin's rush attempts have gone for 3-yards or less. JaTarvious Whitlow is at 36.4 percent, and Shaun Shivers is at 42.9 percent. Whitlow leads the running backs with 54.5 percent of his carries resulting in at least 5-yards. Shivers is next at 42.9 percent, and Martin is at 25.8 percent. If not Kam Martin, Auburn needs for Asa Martin to be the #2 primary runner behind Whitlow with Shivers sprinkled in as a change up.
* During their last five FBS games, Auburn's offense has averaged just 129.8 yards rushing per game on 3.1 yards per attempt. The offense has generated only three plays of 30-yards or more from 375 offensive snaps. Auburn has completed just 7 of 20 passes beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage for a mere 27.5 yards per completion. Auburn's inability to run the ball and generate big plays has resulted in 20.4 points per game. If this doesn't change, there are easily 3-4 more losses on the horizon unless the defense can hold the quality opponents to under 14-17 points.
* Auburn was 2 of 5, running the ball with 2-yards or less needed to convert against LSU.
* A clear sign Auburn is struggling running the football is the 35 runs, and 30 pass plays during the second half of their two Power-5 games this season.
* Auburn is 2 of 8 passing on third down during the last two games for 13-yards.
* During Auburn's last five games against FBS competition, Auburn has averaged 5.0 yards per play on first down while allowing 6.9 yards to the opponent. This includes 3.69 yards per rush on first down. It should be noted Auburn threw the football over 40 percent on first down against Washington and LSU combined.
* It should be emphasized Auburn's last five FBS games were against ranked opponents, and all five opponents were ranked No. 12 or higher. During those five games, Auburn scored 102 points, while allowing 114 points.
* Under Gus Malzahn, Auburn is 7-12 during games the offense is held to under 20 first downs made during a game. During the 19 games, Auburn averaged 20.1 points per game. With this kind of production, the lack of "big play" offense will continue to hinder the 2018 Auburn Tigers.
* Linebacker Deshaun Davis has led Auburn in tackles 11 times from 2016-2018, more than any other Auburn defender.
* Auburn under Gus Malzahn is now 11-16 during games against FBS competition when the opponent has a better average per play on first down. The Tigers are 8-12 against the same level of competition when Auburn loses the "turnover battle."
* During Auburn's last eight games, six of their opponents were ranked. You would have to go back to 1983 and 1984 to duplicate that level of competition.
* Gus Malzahn as head coach at Auburn has faced a ranked opponent 45.7 percent of the time. Gene Chizik met the same level of competition 38.5 percent, and Tommy Tuberville checked in at 37.6 percent. Terry Bowden was 25.7 percent, and Pat Dye was 33.8 percent.
War Eagle!
https://www.aufamily.com/forums/topic/163976-upon-further-review-lsu-game/
Posted Sunday at 03:30 PM
* During the past two games, Auburn is 1 of 4 on third downs during the first quarter and 0 of 6 during the fourth quarter. One of 10 is not a good way to start and finish a game.
* Allowing big plays have been an issue with Kevin Steele's defense. During 2014, Auburn allowed a play of 30-yards or more every 65.4 snaps. It dropped to 1 every 44.2 plays in 2016 and to 1 every 36.8 plays during 2017. This season, the current ratio is one every 29.4 plays, the second-worst rate by an Auburn defense the past 30 years.
* Three times against LSU, Auburn forced the visiting Tigers to begin possessions more than 75-yards away from the Auburn end zone. On all three occasions, LSU was able to drive the ball into scoring territory, gaining 175-yards on 32 plays. Auburn's inability to get the LSU offense off the field resulted in an average starting field position at their own 25-yard line and not one single short field for the Auburn offense to take advantage of yesterday. In a 1-point loss, it is easy to point the finger and many things that could be described as being the difference in the game. IMO, this was a huge factor in the game.
* Last season Auburn averaged 7.2 yards per pass attempt, throwing within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage. This season the average has dropped down to 5.6 yards per attempt. Opposing teams have dialed into Auburn's short game since the Alabama game in 2017. During the last five games, Auburn has attempted 70 passes within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage for 5.0 yards per attempt. The screen game has been neutralized but I do credit to Chip Lindsey for getting away from it early in the game.
* Auburn is now 12-0 when Jarrett Stidham has a pass rating of 130 or better and 0-5 when he does not. During his tenure at Auburn, Stidham has completed only 35.8 percent of his passes thrown beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage. With Auburn needing the return of the big play, Stidham needs to leave his comfort zone and be more aggressive throwing the deeper routes.
* Regarding vertical passing beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage:
Newton (2010): 44.4% for 39.9 yards per completion
Marshall (2013): 28.3% for 505.5 yards per completion
Marshall (2014): 39.7% for 42.2 yards per completion
Marshall (2014 / last 6 games of season): 55.6% for 45.9 yards per completion
White (2015): 34.5% for 38.5 yards per completion
Johnson (2015): 35.0% for 44.0 yards per completion
White (2016): 51.6% for 34.8 yards per completion
Stidham (2017): 34.5% for 42.0 yards per completion
Stidham (2018): 41.6% for 33.0 yards per completion
* The running back rotation is beginning to take shape as Kam Martin saw limited against LSU. For the season, 61.3 percent of Kam Martin's rush attempts have gone for 3-yards or less. JaTarvious Whitlow is at 36.4 percent, and Shaun Shivers is at 42.9 percent. Whitlow leads the running backs with 54.5 percent of his carries resulting in at least 5-yards. Shivers is next at 42.9 percent, and Martin is at 25.8 percent. If not Kam Martin, Auburn needs for Asa Martin to be the #2 primary runner behind Whitlow with Shivers sprinkled in as a change up.
* During their last five FBS games, Auburn's offense has averaged just 129.8 yards rushing per game on 3.1 yards per attempt. The offense has generated only three plays of 30-yards or more from 375 offensive snaps. Auburn has completed just 7 of 20 passes beyond 20-yards of the line of scrimmage for a mere 27.5 yards per completion. Auburn's inability to run the ball and generate big plays has resulted in 20.4 points per game. If this doesn't change, there are easily 3-4 more losses on the horizon unless the defense can hold the quality opponents to under 14-17 points.
* Auburn was 2 of 5, running the ball with 2-yards or less needed to convert against LSU.
* A clear sign Auburn is struggling running the football is the 35 runs, and 30 pass plays during the second half of their two Power-5 games this season.
* Auburn is 2 of 8 passing on third down during the last two games for 13-yards.
* During Auburn's last five games against FBS competition, Auburn has averaged 5.0 yards per play on first down while allowing 6.9 yards to the opponent. This includes 3.69 yards per rush on first down. It should be noted Auburn threw the football over 40 percent on first down against Washington and LSU combined.
* It should be emphasized Auburn's last five FBS games were against ranked opponents, and all five opponents were ranked No. 12 or higher. During those five games, Auburn scored 102 points, while allowing 114 points.
* Under Gus Malzahn, Auburn is 7-12 during games the offense is held to under 20 first downs made during a game. During the 19 games, Auburn averaged 20.1 points per game. With this kind of production, the lack of "big play" offense will continue to hinder the 2018 Auburn Tigers.
* Linebacker Deshaun Davis has led Auburn in tackles 11 times from 2016-2018, more than any other Auburn defender.
* Auburn under Gus Malzahn is now 11-16 during games against FBS competition when the opponent has a better average per play on first down. The Tigers are 8-12 against the same level of competition when Auburn loses the "turnover battle."
* During Auburn's last eight games, six of their opponents were ranked. You would have to go back to 1983 and 1984 to duplicate that level of competition.
* Gus Malzahn as head coach at Auburn has faced a ranked opponent 45.7 percent of the time. Gene Chizik met the same level of competition 38.5 percent, and Tommy Tuberville checked in at 37.6 percent. Terry Bowden was 25.7 percent, and Pat Dye was 33.8 percent.
War Eagle!
https://www.aufamily.com/forums/topic/163976-upon-further-review-lsu-game/
That was very negative of you to think that
TLDR; but I assume this proves my long-held theory of QB1 being a cuck.
I wouldn't go that far, hombre. 20 years does include Gabe Gross, Kiehl Frazier and Jeremy Johnson.
Lol, I forgot Kiehl Frazier started at Auburn. Those days were so bad on my liver.
Of note, 2 of the 3 on that list were Gus #1 targets after years of evaluating them.
To be fair, Cooper Bateman was the #1 target that year for Auburn (not sure who the #1 target was for Gus that year prior to him leaving). Jeremy didn't receive a true offer until Bateman picked Bama. Both of which happened after Gus had left for ASU.
Fair enough, if you'd like to argue semantics instead of Gus' inability to evaluate QBs you can do so.
My point stands that any HS QB that Gus has evaluated for years that he recruited and came to AU has been mentally weak and unfit for SEC play.
My point was tied to that specific situation I stated. Nothing more
My apologies, I think I misunderstood your point. Bateman was worse than Johnson so it makes sense he was above Johnson in Gus' pecking order.
That QB class in general was doo doo
https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2013/DUAL
https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2013/PRO
Yeah, really hoping that Cord Sandberg will be the best of the bunch.
Is it good or bad that the best hope for that class played pro baseball for 5 years and is just now a college freshman QB?
Don’t worry. As soon as he is the only hope, Rice will tell us how good he is and how no other QB would do.
