I don’t think they win. Not sure how they get out though. I think this thing ends in King’s Landing.
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I don’t think they win. Not sure how they get out though. I think this thing ends in King’s Landing.
They emphasized a lot that only a targ can rise a dragon. Night king is a targ imo
enjoyed the episode last night, but they sure did waste a lot of time trying to reintroduce everyone and then the whole dragon riding sequence was justa huge stroke fest that really didn't move the story forward. Can't wait to see where this thing goes next.
I have no issues with long character development and internal politics being fleshed out, in fact early on that was one of the things that made the show great IMO. I'm just getting a bit impatient now because we know there is a hard limit on how many more hours we have.
Could be, but the White Walkers control anything they kill.
I will be interested to see if the whole "she's your aunt" thing ends up being a big deal. The books emphasized that Targaryens almost always married relatives, but the show hasn't done that as much.
totally agree, and that's why i was a little disappointed with all the stroking in this episode, but again it's great to see these characters again.
GRRM better release the last two books or give his blessing to his understudy because that's the only way we'll get the type of depth that the end of this story deserves. About to start rereading A Dance with Dragons after i wrap up the latest Expanse novel.
I think it’s a combination of poor acting, writing, and directing but everyone involved has ruined the characters of Arya and Bran imo. Arya was supposed to turn into Jaqen Hagaar but they just turned her into an assasin but replaced his mystery and subtlety with brash, loudmouth bullishness. And that just ruins it imo. And Bran just straight up turned into some freak in another dimensional head space. I appreciate what he went through to get his powers but they didn’t have to strip away every aspect of basic human interaction from him. It’s just a bit frustrating as they had two really interesting story arcs in the early seasons and the end result is just blah imo
Agree on Bran but I enjoy Arya. Bran is a waste. When Jon hugs, even he can tell he is a weirdo.
WHEN THE FVCK DOES GHOST MAKE AN APPEARANCE????
Yeah. I know getting Jon to ride a dragon was probably some foreshadowing bc he’s gonna need to ride one battle, but since they turned it into a whole rom com “isn’t he adorable being scared of my dragon pet” thing, then they missed an opportunity doing the same with Ghost and Danny.
Bran starts to get weird in the last book, but they give way more details. It is basically like Bran dies and becomes the Three Eyed Raven. If Arya had truly turned into Jaqen Hagaar then she would have never sought revenge on the Freys, so you almost have to accept that she is a mixture of the assassin and her Stark personality. That being said, I think they could have done a better job with how she seems now.
Here are the lengths for each episode. Last 4 are longer. Still would have been much better to have 10 around an hour each.
- episode 1 (April 14): 54 minutes
- episode 2 (April 21): 58 minutes
- episode 3 (April 28): 1 hour, 22 minutes
- episode 4 (May 5): 1 hour, 18 minutes
- episode 5 (May 12): 1 hour, 20 minutes
- episode 6 (May 19): 1 hour, 20 minutes
Minor quibbles but Did Jon not know Sam was in there? Danny saw him before Jon did and you would think, with Sam being his best freeing and they haven’t seen each other since before Jon died, that he would want to talk to him as son as he got into town.
Also, only having one scene with Bran..c’mon. Maybe it’s implied but I would have been asking a million questions about bran and when I saw Arya for the first time in years.
Also kinda disappointed in Arya scenes with gendry and the hound.
Don’t get me wrong..I liked the episode but it feels like they felt they had to rush the introduction episode and I don’t know why. Could have been 15 more minutes of dialogue imo to pay off long awaited reunions.
Also, only having one scene with Bran..c’mon. Maybe it’s implied but I would have been asking a million questions about bran and when I saw Arya for the first time in years.
Also kinda disappointed in Arya scenes with gendry and the hound.
Don’t get me wrong..I liked the episode but it feels like they felt they had to rush the introduction episode and I don’t know why. Could have been 15 more minutes of dialogue imo to pay off long awaited reunions.
New theory, though it doesn't quite make sense. Dany doesn't handle finding out Jon is rightful heir well. At some point she takes some or all of her army and leaves. Winterfell falls, but some escape. Only logical escape would be Theon's sister (or I guess maybe Theon) coming and picking them up on boats and taking them to the iron islands. Jon and Dany make up and get married. Their armies reunite and defeat Cersei and the white walkers, but not sure which order. I don't know why, but I feel like it has to end in Kings Landing.
Agreed. One of the best aspects of the 10 episode arc was that it allowed plenty of time for story development with the drama peaking in the 9th episode and then the 10th typically as a wrap up to set the stage for the next season.
Agree on the last part, this ends in KL one way or the other I think. Either they have to retreat there and beat the walkers together, then whatever drama gets worked out among them...or maybe they retreat and win somewhere else before going to KL to defeat Cersei. If we didn't know that episode 3 was a battle at Winterfell I'd propose a theory that the Walkers shock everyone and bypass the north, heading straight to Kings Landing. That would serve Cersei right, but it's not happening. Jamie's got to kill her so that's coming later
I just don't think Cersei is the final battle. I have nothing to really back that up, just a hunch. Obviously could easily be wrong here.
Walker's get past Winterhold, Jamie rides south, kills Cersei and brings the army north. What's left in the North and Iron Island puts the squeeze on the dead on multiple fronts.
Ned to Jon: Next time I see you, we will talk about your mother.
*Jon finds out about his mother in front of Ned's tomb*
Show writers and producers tend to **** things up. Just too used to it by now. Like The Whole opening sequence where the kid is running through to find a spot to look at the army was supposed to Harkin back to when Arya was trying to get a look at Robert’s arrival. Who in seven hells gaf. I expect Dany to try John by fire to see if he has the blood of the dragon. Simple and quick. Arya is my fav character so hard for me to look at it objectively. Bran just seems like a kid trying to assert himself despite his age. He comes off corney and contrived but let’s face it. He has to get his ass wiped for him, some sort of diaper changed etc. If he doesn’t inspire some sort of demeanor who tf is going to listen to him.
I fully expect some bad bastardized story lines and a follow up movie or movies.
I fully expect some bad bastardized story lines and a follow up movie or movies.
you forgot the part where Malik thunder dunks in the Mountain's face right before the Clagain Bowl tips off.
My guess is Jamie and/or brienne. Grey with bc he had the "future" talk. Sam or Edd. Ghost bc of money (they did ghost so wrong). Theon protecting Bran. The hound and beric. Jorah.
I'm really stumped as to how this is going to go. Defeating the Night King in episode 3 just makes no sense to me. 3 more episodes just to defeat Cersi after defeating the army of the dead? No way. But I also don't see how the main characters who survive are going to escape if they don't win the battle. Doesn't seem like the army of the dead would retreat to regroup. I think we are going to lose some obvious characters in this next episode, but there also has to be some big time character deaths I would think. Maybe Dany? Probably Arya? Jon is possible, but doesn't seem likely.
Brienne, Tormund, Gendry and Jorah are my guesses for “big” deaths. Maybe Theon too but I still think he’s gotta have a some type of confrontation with Euron.
The new conflict is gonna be between Dany and Jon after the fight against the white walkers imo. I don’t think Jon really wants the Iron Throne, but I could see Dany going mad (which the show has hinted at before) and trying to take out Jon so she can claim the throne. I hope a dragon becomes loyal to Jon. That’d be interesting
Still feel like there is a good chance the Night King has taken his dragon and a good chunk of his dead army in a different direction. Maybe that's why they didn't show him last night, though it could be he's just flying in late as a 2nd wave. If he believes Jon has assembled a tougher group to fight, with Danny and her dragons + her armies and the north....maybe he is going to go conquer others while boxing them in and keeping them busy at Winterfell.
Would be a nice turn if the ice dragon shows up on Cersei's doorstep instead of Winterfell. Also possible he's going to the Iron Islands to end that threat before it gets started.
Would be a nice turn if the ice dragon shows up on Cersei's doorstep instead of Winterfell. Also possible he's going to the Iron Islands to end that threat before it gets started.
The idea that part of the dead army is elsewhere would help make more sense. Only problem with that is I think the show pointing out that he is after Bran makes that a little less likely. Can't wait for Sunday to get here.
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So I'm just putting together two pretty simple things that we should probably have already guessed (and some of you probably already have).
The crypts is a bad place not a safe place because the Night King can raise the dead. People in the crypts are in danger.
Arya is seen running through the crypts, this will be a big scene for her. She claimed to be excited to meet see this version of death's face or something like that. She gonna have to kill Whitewalker Ned.
The crypts is a bad place not a safe place because the Night King can raise the dead. People in the crypts are in danger.
Arya is seen running through the crypts, this will be a big scene for her. She claimed to be excited to meet see this version of death's face or something like that. She gonna have to kill Whitewalker Ned.
See I think that they made the Bran point may just be misdirection. Plus I feel like Bran needs to be thrown for a loop at some point. And being certain that NK was coming for him and then having NK go to the Iron Islands or King's Landing would unnerve him quite a bit.
I don't think the NK is going to Kings landing at all but I do think that vision Dany saw in season 2 has to happen. But in that same vision it shows a dragon shadow flying over KO and there isn't snow. So idk how deep we should look into those visions.
They also mentioned how safe the crypts are so much that its obviously not. But, in the books, it's imied that the dead Stark's areaid with iron swords and can't be turned by the NK.
I don't think it will happen but it would be so rad for dead Stark's of old to rise out of the crypts to defend winterfell.
They also mentioned how safe the crypts are so much that its obviously not. But, in the books, it's imied that the dead Stark's areaid with iron swords and can't be turned by the NK.
I don't think it will happen but it would be so rad for dead Stark's of old to rise out of the crypts to defend winterfell.
