***** Official Game of Thrones Discussion Thread *****
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I think he wrote himself into corners he doesn't want to write himself out of. I'm not sure he intended some of these characters to become as big as they did, he just does development so well he found himself with tons of stories and lines to finish and no idea how to wrap it up.
I'll believe he's finished the books when I see them releases 2 weeks after the show ends. Otherwise I'm calling BS on this rumor.
Rewatching right now. The score was so on point this episode. I think this is the same dude that does the music for Westworld too. He’s a genius
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-rr-martin-actually-finished-204700010.html
Seems that GRRM is pissed off at the rumor. Say book six is not finished and the seventh obviously has been started with six being incomplete.
Seems that GRRM is pissed off at the rumor. Say book six is not finished and the seventh obviously has been started with six being incomplete.
I’ve fully bought into the theory that he just said **** it and is going to slowly fade after the show and live off the spinoffs.
He has no idea how to make it work now. He weaved this fantastic world with tons of amazing characters and ending it would be like choosing which child to have kill. He’s gonna stall until his time runs out
I always assumed it was infinite. In the books they are pretty much unstoppable and only die of old age until the targa start locking them up and they get smaller and smaller.
This is my main thing. The heel turn was too fast imo. They needed 5 episodes minimum to flesh out a lot of things but especially her turning mad. It makes sense narratively but the execution was rushed to highlight spectacle.
Yeah he got super rich from the show and started to enjoy life. He travels all the time and has been writing other things. I think it’s just so massive he doesn’t know how to make it all work.
They may be going for “mad” but if I was just watching the series, I’d say that from an observer she just seems like someone who felt backed into a corner. Foreign land that she is attempting to conquer. The loyal part of her army has been diminished. her new allies have grown up hating her and tried to kill her in her crib. Her only power over them is fear. if she leaves them then they are plotting to dethrone her and seize power. She was also facing a ruthless bitch with the superior defensive advantage, scorpions, pretty extensive household guard, bodyguards, army, armada, sale swords, and stash of dragon fire throughout the city with a willingness to use it. Oh yeah the same ruthless bitch has already killed her baby (dragon) and kidnapped and beheaded her best friend / advisor. Dany made the right call. The ruthless bitch were using her own citizen as human shields. Burning them and the city was the right call and not madness. Wars a bitch and you don’t get into it unless you have the stomach to do what needs to be done.
She had already won though. But if the city and civilians was not a thing needed to be done. She had already beat the fleet and the scorpions and the other army had surrendered. She went mad and burnt everything anyway.
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we have just been watching for ten years and only have one episode left so we are kind of stuck
I thought the last episode was a few days ago.
I’m enjoying the season gents. Don’t need to get bogged down with character development when you got fire breathing dragons burning civilization to the ground.
They definitely could have dragged it out a few more episodes to tie some things up but every great show ends in disappointment. Expect the finale to be pretty epic.
They definitely could have dragged it out a few more episodes to tie some things up but every great show ends in disappointment. Expect the finale to be pretty epic.
Yeah I can't defend her. She's become a completely obsessed, paranoid bitch and the most entitled character on the show. This hasn't been about "Breaker of Chains" in a long time....and the truth it looks like it was never actually about that. That was just a good campaign strategy that led her to get an amazing army and conned people into supporting her path to the throne by selling the public on this image of her as the great liberator. Her claim for this war on Westeros was that the throne was her birthright with the male Targs all gone. As soon as she's faced with the fact that's not the case she goes completely crazy and refuses to back off. She literally does not care about breaking chains or relieving the world of tyrants once that's not a campaign slogan that gets her more support. She herself has become a tyrant and would do anything to rule, including scorching an entire city of innocents just to make sure people are afraid of her.
I know people that jumped on Team Danny hate to hear it, but she's the villain now and the truth is she may have always been a bit of a villain and the only reason we saw her as something good and positive was that most of the Lannister clan was busy being so horrible that we couldn't see the Danny con coming. We all believed she was genuine and not just power hungry. She sold us on this idea of liberation and it was all PR. For all we know the places she was conquering and then leaving are all worse off because civil war erupted after she left or even more corrupt lords took over in her absence, cause we have no evidence that she left established governing bodies in those places she had completely upended. Even the slaves she rescued have basically all come to a foreign land and died, while being hated because they were foreign by nearly everyone there. I'm not sure that's a big improvement actually. This "Danny as Savior" thing looks very shaky in retrospect and looks a lot more like a power hungry politician wisely selling herself as the one thing that would help her in her pursuit of power and the moment she had the chance she was everything she claimed she'd never be. In the end you could argue that at least Tywin and Cersei were honest about who they were and what their intentions have been. Danny might be worse because she flew a flag representing one idea and then turned on that as soon as she saw she no longer needed the "breaker of chains" pitch to help in her quest to burn her enemies into ash.
It’ll be interesting to see how she responds to her own actions. She could either be like “oh my god, what have I done?” and try to still win favor again with Jon. Or she could go total heel turn and scorched earth with a “yeah, I did that. And if anyone has a problem with it, I’ll scorch your ass too” and just be an unapologetic psycho. Scenario one is probably how it’s gonna happen just because scenario two is a bit much of a turn in just two episodes. Either way, she’s getting mirked though
The books touch on this a little bit but I don't think there is any resolution. But yeah she doesn't leave them in a better place at all unless I am mistaken.
Man I see nothing in her recent actions, going back into last season, that say she's going to be apologetic. She's got Queen mentality now. Nothing she does is wrong. Nobody can reprimand her. She's just gonna walk right into this Mad Queen thing IMO.
Seriously though. She took over the slave cities and had mercy only to have the ruling families plot her demise, undercut her plans, and assassinate her loyal followers. She has learned that mercy is never an option in war.
The whole of Westeros is fvcked from a succession stand point. If she ends up on the throne and cannot have kids then she leaves the kingdom in chaos no matter whom she appoints. Cuck Jon will be too afraid to have kids because of the saying about every time a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin. He’d shit himself thinking he’d born another mad ruler into the realm. No world will let a dwarf rule them. Grey Worm is a eunuch. The realm has no future at long standing peace unless Cvck already has made Dany preggers. Then that goes down the drain if someone knocks off Dany.
The whole of Westeros is fvcked from a succession stand point. If she ends up on the throne and cannot have kids then she leaves the kingdom in chaos no matter whom she appoints. Cuck Jon will be too afraid to have kids because of the saying about every time a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin. He’d shit himself thinking he’d born another mad ruler into the realm. No world will let a dwarf rule them. Grey Worm is a eunuch. The realm has no future at long standing peace unless Cvck already has made Dany preggers. Then that goes down the drain if someone knocks off Dany.
Yep, she's gonna demand that Jon and everyone else kiss the ring. I think Jon refuses and becomes the Queen Slayer.
I think it’ll be more complicated than her just being a psychotic bitch now. She’ll try to justify her actions and Jon will probably fall for it. Then someone like Arya maybe will defy Dany, Dany will try to execute her, and Jon knifes her or something.
Would love for her to stand in the desert, put on a hat, furl her lip, and then demand everyone to call her Heisenberg though
Would love for her to stand in the desert, put on a hat, furl her lip, and then demand everyone to call her Heisenberg though
If Bran wargs into Drogon, he is my king. Otherwise. . .
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Help me out my brotha! Who’s died so far and who will be dying? Will bran become king?
I’m sure it has a lot to do with this, but you’re 100% correct. Makes absolutely no sense.
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