OT: AD Search
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Serious question, can you (or any of us for that matter) name 10 good AD's without hitting Google or just saying "that AD at ________". I know I couldn't, I tried and stopped at like 3.
This isn't like hiring a contractor because the bench is almost non existent in college athletics when it comes to proven, successful AD's. There just aren't many out there that have the resume and experience that also don't have a ton of negatives that we'd be pissed off about. It's just different. You can find great contractors who have built amazing things but we don't get to judge them like we judge AD's on every single hire and every single result. That comparison doesn't work for me. He's inexperienced sure...but he's worked in AD buildings long enough to know the way the world there works so it's not a foregone conclusion that he's going to have those huge growing pains you speak of.
IMO, this was the likely type of hire all along if we got outside our known circle (which needed to be done). Which proven, successful AD without any bad NCAA stench on him where we going to pull and don't name schools that offer more than we do. I just don't see a solid list out there. And to say he only got hired cause he's black and we'd never hire someone like him if they were white is absurd. We hired freaking hick Jacobs with much, much less on his resume than this. We've continually hired white hicks to positions they were unqualified for. if a brother gets a job at AU with a thin resume it's about freaking time.
dude you brought race into this and said the guy wouldn't be hired if he weren't black.
Did you ever stop the think that progressive doesn't necessarily mean "black" or "minority". We hired a guy who graduated college in 1999. He's not old white haired country club dude. That's damn progressive for AU even if he was as white as you and I.
And sometimes saying "hey that's a little racist" isn't some kind of cop out because you don't have an actual argument. Sometimes its just a fact worth pointing out. You literally brought race into this and essentially said the man was gifted a job due to the color of his skin with zero facts to back it up. I'm not sure how you plan to defend that one.
Are you saying we should have hired the woman that just got her first AD job at Virginia a few months ago? Cause she's got less actual AD experience than our guy does.
I doubt he had legit interest. Why would he leave Oregon for Boogville?
Yeah. Gotta think the Oregon guy was a pipe dream. Why the fugg would you leave the school with college athletics Ultimate Booster in Phil Knight to come to Boog town?
Give it up Thrust... Just because somebody questions a hire doesn't make them a racist. You went straight to the race card because that is all you can play. I feel sorry for people that have a small mind like you.
Didn’t realize that he spells both of his name with two Ls and an E like a psycho
High praise from the DUKE AD. And the Duf daddy. I’m sold.
I said a 2 year WHITE AD from Buffalo would not have been hired. I stand by that. Jay Jacobs was in the AU system. He was an AU guy. He was already there. We just went through Jet Gate. Totally different situation. The fact he was Black was an asset to him. If his name was Jim Smith and was a 2 year AD at Buffalo, IMO, he doesn't get hired at AU. And Virginia isn't on AU's level either, but she did spend time at Georgia, who is on or bigger than AU since 2004. She was involved in every aspect at Georgia's AD. She also spent time at Vanderbilt. She is far more experienced and seen way more in day to day operations at a big time university than Al Greene could have ever thought of. She would have been a superior selection to Greene based off of experience for sure.
ALL THAT SAID, Allen may be an amazing AD...
in 7 years he will be the guy that fires gus! that's an important job!
Him and Cole are about the same age. When being nice and smart etc are the first things mentioned you know that experience is lacking. Would be awesome if the reviews were, "AD Greene is a force to be reckoned with, he totally revamped our entire AD. We were in bad shape when Al arrived on campus but he has really created a winning culture here and fundraising has been through the roof". But no, all we get it, "he is the nicest guy". I wish him the best, but people are bending over backwards to support a guy with little experience. I get it, it is to be expected. I just have a wait and see approach. I sound like I am hating on the man, but that isn't my point and I have been assured it isn't hard to be an AD so he should be just fine.
So now not being the AD but being in the department other places matters enough?
Okay.
You are still claiming a man got a job based only on the color of his skin and doing so on nothing but conjecture and your opinion of the facts around the hire. That's pretty remarkable even if you can't see it.
Nobody...and I mean nobody I've seen on any board or any social media has argued against anyone saying something as simple as "wait and see". Everyone is fine with that being your position. I think most of us are taking that position while trying to get you to stop bringing race into the conversation.
You guys think he'll be at the Boog Bball game on Saturday? Would be pretty neat to see a half time interview with him or something
Seems like a lot of people are raving about him. And not just cause he’s a nice guy.
I only brought up Race because Leath was praised for hiring a black guy with no ties to AU and when I looked at his experience (not much experience) I assumed it was part of his decision. I hope race was not part of the decision. He is our AD now, time to get on board or fvck off... Overall I am kind of sad we didn't get a stud pony, but I am over it now. War Damn AG!
She had been at big time SEC Schools since 2004. 13 years... She paid her dues and deserved her shot at top school. And Virginia is nowhere near AU on the size of the program etc.
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I'd be careful making those kind of assumptions....for starters it's about as offensive and insulting the guy that got hired as anything could possibly be. Almost any other critique is less insulting and disrespectful towards him.
I still want to know who the stud pony AD's we wanted were...and I want to know if people can name them without going to Google or without saying "that guy at school X" cause I follow college athletics very closely and I'm telling you I can't even come close to naming 10 candidates that don't have huge negatives with them. I don't think I can name 5. Most of the ones I can remember names of are because they suck or are involved in scandals or bad hires.
I really think the bench of great, proven, experienced AD hires is much, much thinner than you think it is. But I'm willing to be proven wrong if someone can provide a list and pinky swear they didn't google it.
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Would we all post here if Greg Madia was named Gregg Madia?
Great!
You do know it is easy to find quotes and soundbites, right? We found people to say similar about Jay Jacobs, Gene Chizik, and Gus Malzahn. Doesn't mean much to me. You know who we didn't hear a bunch of endorsements about? Nick Saban, Bill Battle, Greg Byrne etc. People that have done stuff don't need their fan boys offering sound bites. But when you hire someone nobody has ever heard of, you have to get these quotes to support your decision to hire that person. I understand how all this works. I hope he kicks azz!! I am indifferent to the hire. @L I G E R is the only person that questioned it on here besides me. I have accepted him as my AD and will trust my fellow Dukes' opinions.
OMG. Fine great terrific you’re indifferent. I don’t think anyone is over here busting a nut. Claiming dude was hired only cause he’s black is just totally outlandish. Even for the internet.
I think most people are just pleased it’s not another dumb hick that played for Corch Dye.
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Unless aulife_rz has taken over your account there has been quite a bit back and forth to just finally settle back on "indifferent'.
What pisses me the EFF off is our bar was so low for the AU fam to be happy. "Don't be a hick" "Don't Be Jay Jacobs". What we don't know is when Gus was playing his games with Arky, does AD Greene tell him, "Good luck at Arkansas" or "Here is an extension for 10 years $70,000,000" I have no clue how the young pup is at negotiating with the Sexton's of the world etc. If he is just a face and Lowder will be reallying making the decision, ok. If he has the actual power, of this budget, with never hiring somone, hmmmmmm... Yes, it makes me wonder. He is young. And when you are young, older folks will test you because they will view you as, inexperienced, etc. At least Jay did hand AG a wolf in Bruce. Best of luck to AG!
Again, No one has really brought race up but you. Sorry it is such a big deal to you.
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This has got to be a put-on of some kind.
I can’t name 10, but look at this resume. What a WOLF!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Radakovich
Actually, if you would read what is being said about him, you would have noticed there was a lot mentioned about what he accomplished.
And why do you think other schools are like Auburn. He can't help it he didn't walk into a train wreck left behind Danny White. So you are knocking because the guy he replaced did a good job as well?
Hired by GaTech with no previous AD experience, great point. He was the guy us EXPERTS wanted to replace Housel.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2018/01/who_is_allen_greene_auburn_ad.html
Good read on our new AD.
Good read on our new AD.
Folks we’ve entertaine demeat long enough. Progressive or not, we have the best looking AD in the conference, he can smooth talk people to raise some money, and has been around the country so he can hopefully increase Auburn’s national brand.
Also played minor league ball so he’s not clueless about athletes.
Good hire
Also played minor league ball so he’s not clueless about athletes.
Good hire
Yep. And there is no chance you’d pull him from Clemson right now. He’s got it going and he would have no reason to leave
My point remains that the bench is thin and that the elite ones are already in locations they aren’t moving from (unless they lose a couple of stud coaches and see a good exit ramp at the perfect time)
I'm very impressed with the hire. No one knows if it will work, but it shows OBBERN went on a nationwide search. Hopefully the days of incestuous hiring are in the past.
He was in a powerhouse AD though as a Senior Associate AD from 2001-2006. IMO that is impressive. Just like the lady that was hired from Georgia to be Virginia’s OC. Doesn’t matter now. We have our man, time to rally around him! I think his best experience likely came at Notre Dame. Ole Miss was during the Nutt Era and one year of Freeze. Buffalo he was an understudy to a good AD and that was valuable as well. The guy he replaced is making a name for himself. (I wonder if we called him).
