I'm 99.999% certain those guys got paid to go there. I mean come on.
OT: RE the CHUCK situation
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Clearly we're viewing this with Purple & Gold glasses, but where there is implied smoke, there is a program handing out cash.
Agree. The FBI wants to fine addidas a shit ton of money so they can fund their organization. It's always about money.
No worries. One of our bball experts just said that if we only lose Wiley and Herron we still beat Bama twice this season. And here I was thinking they'd be tough to beat when we had erriebody playing!
I mean - there’s no way to lose players and play things out in a vacuum without other guys being affected by the entire circumstance...
from a purely X’s and O’s perspective:
Sweet Jared/Young Davion
Bryce
Mustapha
Okeke
Mac
is a competitive starting 5
it leaves us very thin in the front court and susceptible to true size... the biggest loss is Purifoy’s shooting and floor spacing though
we just won’t have enough shooting or rebounding to be where we hoped to be, but we’ll still have 9 quality guys to throw out there
unfortunately, I see no way this isn’t a huge distraction... so no way to even attempt to forecast how everyone reacts
How long will OBBERN ride the suspended tag on Chuck? Will they go into the season down an assistant?
Does BRUCE go out and hire a stud or does he promote Baby Pearl?
Can someone recruit in Chuck's place on the road right now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Does BRUCE go out and hire a stud or does he promote Baby Pearl?
Can someone recruit in Chuck's place on the road right now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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I get your train of thought on Purifoy being the biggest loss, but I would still have to go with Wiley being a bigger loss. We have other wing type players that can knock down a shot (Heron/Dunbar) as well as other perimeter guys, but we have no real big boy basketball size without Austin. Danjel was too enamored with the 3 ball last year... but if he played the way we all envisioned and attacked the basket more often and played even some defense, then I would be inclined to actually agree.
As it stands though, AW would be the bigger blow to our roster. IMO of course.
We'll be pretty good regardless. FTR, he said Wiley and Herron, not DP. It just seems funny to me that basketball experts around the country think they will be as good or better than us, before all the mess. And the homers think we'll be better than them without two of our best players.
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Good question. Haven't heard anything regarding anyone being able to recruit in his place or a possible replacement as of yet. I guess we are letting the dust settle for now.
Please no on a Baby Bruce promotion. He shouldn't even be on the staff imo. Need to add a known/proven recruiter to the staff.
Where people want to point out that Person was possibly forced on Bruce... I'd say that it was more likely a compromise. Bruce was able to hire his progeny so long as he also hired Chuck.
If he had been hired as an on floor assistant it would make more sense to me. One year as S&C, two years as Op Director, don't add up. I also don't believe for one second that Bruce had any qualms hiring Chuck when he came but apparently I'm in the minority on that. Anxious to hear what Bruce says.
If it’s Wiley and Heron we should just cancel the season... we won’t have 1 legitimate threat to score in the half court
Hoke seems to think it’s Danjel, and I’m clinging to that life raft right now
as far as Wiley vs Danjel - we discussed it earlier, but Wiley actually hinders the style BRUCE wants to play... he’s so effing big and advanced for his age that it’s worth it to play him anyway, but Mac and Horace can play the pressing, helter skelter style that Austin just can’t play... we’re just down 1 massive body and rebounder to eat up 8-10 quality minutes a night that will kill us over the course of 35 games
if Heron takes a leap, and Davion/Dunbar are actual consistent threats from 3, then I’d agree Austin hurts more... I don’t expect anything offensively outside the paint from any of the new wings though... maybe I’m wrong and will be pleasantly surprised, but I just wanted them to get in someone’s ass on defense for 20 minutes a night apiece and hammer on any man, woman, or child who got in their way on the break... asking them to fill Danjel’s floor spacing role was not in my dreams for them this season
I’m trying hard to spin this positively, but at this point I’m judging success this year solely by whether BRUCE is the coach next year or not
Hoke seems to think it’s Danjel, and I’m clinging to that life raft right now
as far as Wiley vs Danjel - we discussed it earlier, but Wiley actually hinders the style BRUCE wants to play... he’s so effing big and advanced for his age that it’s worth it to play him anyway, but Mac and Horace can play the pressing, helter skelter style that Austin just can’t play... we’re just down 1 massive body and rebounder to eat up 8-10 quality minutes a night that will kill us over the course of 35 games
if Heron takes a leap, and Davion/Dunbar are actual consistent threats from 3, then I’d agree Austin hurts more... I don’t expect anything offensively outside the paint from any of the new wings though... maybe I’m wrong and will be pleasantly surprised, but I just wanted them to get in someone’s ass on defense for 20 minutes a night apiece and hammer on any man, woman, or child who got in their way on the break... asking them to fill Danjel’s floor spacing role was not in my dreams for them this season
I’m trying hard to spin this positively, but at this point I’m judging success this year solely by whether BRUCE is the coach next year or not
I guess it could have easily been one of Wiley or Danjel's parents in the meeting in NYC, but it just makes so much sense that it'd be Mustapha's since he's from Connecticut. I'm clinging to hope that whoever they are can just pay it back to wherever it belongs and they don't lose more than half a season of eligibility
I will also say that it makes so much more sense that dumbass Chuck could swindle to parents from Alabama that he probably relates to more than him swindling the some parents from the northeast.
So I don't know
So I don't know
I always thought he'd been nudged out so that Chuck could be the clear top assistant but there could have been something else to it.
Pretty detailed breakdown:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...50/the-story-how-fbi-brought-words-corruption
1) good grief Chuck Person
2) FBI seems to think he was acting alone and no one else was involved
3) Leath speaks (a little)
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...50/the-story-how-fbi-brought-words-corruption
1) good grief Chuck Person
2) FBI seems to think he was acting alone and no one else was involved
3) Leath speaks (a little)
I'm hoping this opens up such a big can of worms that the NCAA can't send a ton of resources to come sniffing around AU like they'd want to
Feeling like BRUCE is gonna make it gang (knock on wood).
Also, sounds like Danjel and not Staph as we've discussed. Now just get these youngsters on the court come SEC play.
Not the first or second time they've quickly booted some staffer or assistant and then claimed an internal investigation found no issues at all.
Sure they are just forcing resignations because people were abusing cafeteria privileges.
It's such a lame statement.
"We reviewed everything and as a result accepted his resignation. We then let both the NCAA and SEC know the actions we took.
By the way, we didn't break any rules."
I've never been in PR, but that's a pretty bad one
They just got to show they are pro active. Found a fall guy and self reported. Emmert is proud and moves on.
will Chuck bring down BAMA too? the BAMA admin who was fired met with Chuck, the agent rep, and Collin Sexton’s dad?
I know college basketball is dirty and incestuous - but Chuck was helping facilitate meetings with BAMA admins too?
was this part already known:
Although Baker was not charged with a crime in the recent FBI roundup of figures allegedly connected with corruption in college basketball, UA acted in the belief that he was involved in a meeting with Atlanta-based advisor Rashan Michel and Auburn assistant coach Chuck Person, who were arrested on Tuesday as part of an FBI sting operation.
According to the charges released yesterday by the United States Attorney Office in the Southern District of New York, Michel and Person met with an unidentified “school administrator” who accepted a $5,000 payment and arranged an August meeting with the “father of a highly regarded incoming freshman” from the Atlanta area, along with Michel and a cooperating federal witness listed as CW-1.
https://www.tidesports.com/kobie-baker-resignation-fbi-investigation/
I know college basketball is dirty and incestuous - but Chuck was helping facilitate meetings with BAMA admins too?
was this part already known:
Although Baker was not charged with a crime in the recent FBI roundup of figures allegedly connected with corruption in college basketball, UA acted in the belief that he was involved in a meeting with Atlanta-based advisor Rashan Michel and Auburn assistant coach Chuck Person, who were arrested on Tuesday as part of an FBI sting operation.
According to the charges released yesterday by the United States Attorney Office in the Southern District of New York, Michel and Person met with an unidentified “school administrator” who accepted a $5,000 payment and arranged an August meeting with the “father of a highly regarded incoming freshman” from the Atlanta area, along with Michel and a cooperating federal witness listed as CW-1.
https://www.tidesports.com/kobie-baker-resignation-fbi-investigation/
Yesterday sucked but today has been a good day.
reading back through the ESPN article, this part sticks out:
Blazer paid Michel tens of thousands of dollars from January 2017 to about September, according to the FBI, and Michel helped facilitate the payment of $25,000 to an unidentified staff member of another school. The staff member received $5,000 during an initial meeting and an additional $20,000 in later meetings in New York and Atlanta.
$5k - ding
Atlanta - ding
unidentified staff member - ding
This is awesome!
from the TideSports link, the cooperating witness was at the meeting with the BAMA admin and Sexton’s dad - so I’m assuming there’s video and audio of that meeting...
I haven’t read enough to know why some corches were arrested and some weren’t... could be something to do with how much proof they have that money went to players or their families? who knows... or could be that Chuck is a special breed of dumbass who is on tape doing something above and beyond what we already know about...
the good thing is, if ADIDAS and NIKE are the targets - and if the feds are already taking computers and evidence from Nike affiliated guys - this has only just begun...
my hope is that the entire thing is burned to the ground - NCAA included
Would person go from a$$hat to hero if somehow it ended up that the players involved were bama players and not boog players? I know this isn't possible but that would be hilarious.
According to a random post on the net the Wileys deny receiving any money. I choose to believe it!
I know someone that knows them, so count me in as well
