Reading this thread has been just delightful...
OT: The DONALD's latest scandal
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Some of you guys just need to say, “hey, I hate Obama and Hillary so I’ll defend Trump to the death.”
It’s so bizarre that some people can’t have an honest discussion on these things bc of their rabid political tribalism. Just bc you think Trump is an idiot doesn’t mean you’re a diehard Hillary supporter. And vice versa.
I can think Trump is a giant dipshit without being a lib snowflake. Just like some of you conservatives can admit to some of his very very obvious faults without having your alpha male conservative cards taken from you.
The political discussions in this country have gotten so dumb. All the talking points and exaggerated narratives on both sides have been repeated and regurgitated and sensationalized to the point where no one is even willing to speak honestly anymore
bruh I'd rather have a literal chimp over Hillary Clinton. Obama ****ed up some stuff but was no more/less corrupt than anyone else in that office has been.
I like Trump as president not because I agree with everything he does but he's shaken shit up, I'd vote for another version of him too, but I kind of just want to watch the world burn.
agree with most of your post though. I think people can't be honest with themselves mostly...this thread is a great example of that.
Just quit. You have blind hate for Trump, so stop projecting. If Obama was doing what Trump has done in year 1, I’d be ecstatic.
Part of the reason people are so extreme on both sides is this. Obama got a Nobel prize for NOTHING. He just got elected and they literally handed it to him. Trump is negotiations denuclearizing North Korea and people are making fun of his wifes accent.
While we're on the subject, everyone always talked about how beautiful Michelle was, but Melania is a literal model and I haven't seen her grace/beauty mentioned once.
It's disgusting the bias, which is part of what makes me want to jump to his defense, even though rationally I'd criticize a lot of what he does regarding appointing/keeping corporate puppets at the highest levels of government, and getting in twitter fights with guys like lavar ball. But I feel like I can't, because he gets credit for NOTHING good that hes done, so those of us who don't have a hate hardon for the guy wind up feeling like we have to defend him to the death just to create some parity.
This is the Greg so most of us are above the partisan BS. I don’t get the impression anyone here loves Obama.
I get all my political news from Trumps twitter. Helps me stay away from shit cable news, recognize his accomplishments as well as how absurd he is. His rant on Alec Baldwin was incredible.
I get all my political news from Trumps twitter. Helps me stay away from shit cable news, recognize his accomplishments as well as how absurd he is. His rant on Alec Baldwin was incredible.
Again, you missed the whole point of the post entirely. And, I seriously seriously doubt you would. Unless you’re always just a “means justify the ends” kind of guy but I doubt it. But like I said, you’ve missed the point.
And for I’m all for some of Trump’s thoughts and actions on Muslim immigration and isis. I think those opinions are actually based on facts that some libs don’t wanna hear. I think some of his other thoughts are pure xenophobic demagoguery
If Trump would outlaw assault weapons and legalize weed, I’d be all up in his corner...
The idea that Trump is smart because he's rich is an instant classic. I don't have a problem with supporting a lot of what Trump has done, some of it has been really good. Blindly supporting everything he does makes you retarded. Hell Im not sure he supports everything he has done.
You didn't answer my question and you aren't going to because it'll make you look stupid.
Anyway, while it's my opinion Trump isn't very intelligent, that's not really all that concerning. Several presidents haven't been hyper intelligent, even some really good ones. It isn't a prerequisite. Reagan, Eisenhower, Truman, and Wilson weren't traditionally brilliant but were all successful leaders. Guys like Obama, Clinton, Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy, FDR, and Teddy were all successful to a degree, but all had head starts because they were fuggin brilliant.
The issue I have is more with intellect. Trump doesn't strike me as a person who searches for the nuance in a situation or asks "why" nearly enough when confronted with a problem. He's just not a deep thinker. He doesn't read books or have any real curiosity about anything other than making money. Anecdotal evidence appeals to him far more than the big picture - the tariffs are a great example of this. Worst of all, he's a dreadful judge of character. His cabinet appointments have been ass other than Mattis (who might have been SecDef under Hillary anyway) and he seriously could not have picked worse advisers.
Taking all that into consideration, he really hasn't been as bad as i thought he would've been. He's benefited from his party controlling both houses of Congress of course. His immigration initiatives have all been pretty solid other than the stupid ass wall, even though he and many Pubs fail to see the big picture ramifications of getting rid of too many illegals. He also has handled Asia pretty well despite the near-disastrous start with Dear Leader.
All in all though, the guy's a conspiracy theorist and, as you may have been able to tell from past posts, I hold no one in lower regard. That alone makes him a dipshit of the highest order.
Clinton is just sooooo unlikable, which is a shame. She's the most qualified person to ever run for president and not hold the office other than Henry Clay. As for Obama, I liked roughly 40% of his policies but the bad ones were REALLY BAD. His strength was always going to be as a statesman, though, and he carried that out pretty flawlessly, especially compared to Trump.
This would be okay if the President of the United States wasn't so goddamn important. Anyone with an IQ over 90 understands that voting for a guy because you think he'll contribute to the destruction of the single most successful system of government in the history of the world is irresponsible and dumb.
LBJ and Clinton brilliant? That’s where you lost me. Decent synopsis other than that. Also, Ivy League education doesn’t equal brilliance imo.
If Obama had lived his life anything remotely like Trump he would've never been elected.
Due to being a community organizer with no real success before office.
yeah. You should just keep getting your political conversations from the creetins on the main board.
A lot more politically sound than twitter, or you. We get it, you hate Trump. Such value you have provided to this thread so far.
Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar when that meant a hell of a lot more than it means now. Saying Bill Clinton isn't among the smartest people ever to be the President is a non-starter no matter what you think of the guy. Slick Willie was on Weagle's level when it comes to IQ.
LBJ is probably the most underrated President of all time in the intelligence department (other than maybe W, surprisingly). He went to Texas State and didn't get an Ivy League education, but he was without a doubt one of the best "politicians" of all time. Dude got EVERYTHING passed and not just because Kennedy was killed. LBJ had skills no other president ever had.
dude. You've literally provided nothing. TMB is obviously your echo chamber because it's full of a bunch of dumb 20 somthing white dudes that literally are totally uninformed. Mahler is really the only on there worth listening to. You're totally all talk and no substance about politics just like you are about basketball. We're all still waiting for you to educate us on the x's and o's of bball and the differnce between avery and bruce like you said you would.
Ok, well we disagree on what makes a good president. I’m all about the successfullness of the policies, not getting them passed through.
Why would I give my opinion to someone that clearly hates Trump?
I don’t like to give my opinion, because you whine like a biitch when I give my POV. You become condescending, and I don’t care to argue.
I don’t believe Bruce is a good x and o coach at all. I believe he’s an extremely good recruiter and motivator, but his poor coaching was shown over the last month and a half of the season. It will start to look better once he hires an assistant. Avery clearly outcoached Bruce in the three matchups. We caught fire in a 4 minute stretch and the crowd overcame Alabama and they put their tail between their legs while we were at home. Bruce’s problem is that he babies the players a little too much for my taste. It’s why they started to fight and bitch with each other at the end of the year. I’d be happy to take you to a game and show you how much I know about basketball. I’m involved in politics as well and am in the republican circle. I wouldn’t call myself a pub at all, though. I only like two politicians. That’s is Trump and Rand Paul. I think 90% of the others have no backbone and have their hand out to the highest bidder.
I try not to get in these spouts anymore, because they never go anywhere. We disagree, and I’ll end it at that.
Why can't you just tell us how much you know about basketball right here? You have done a terrible job of this up to this point.
Will you breakdown how Bruce is not a good X's and O's and how Avery is good at X's and O's.
And by breakdown, I'm not looking for a "he just isnt" answer. I mean a in-depth Analysis
we all want the x's and o's breakdown from "someone who's played at a high level" that he promised us but we'll never get it apparently.
What a coincidence the poor coaching showed up when Mac got hurt and our best player all year was dealing with nagging injuries. Like he’s supposed to just dial up the picket fence for Patty K and make all our troubles go away.
I was referring more to the five kids with three wives thing. But yeah, being president of the Harvard Law Review and teaching constitutional law at Chicago for a decade pretty much makes you an absolute failure.
Any weapon made for killing lots of people in a short amount of time.
We're getting a bunch of didactic nonsense in here from a guy who thought Bryce wasn't even an SEC caliber player. But yeah, sure, we should listen to his talent evaluations about much more important things like who should be the damn president.
I would like you to interpret Bruce's flex offense when compared to other traditional flex offenses that stack when setting up. Thanks in advance!
I'm going to let "successfullness" slide this one time.
In any event, presidential success is usually measured by how much of the president's agenda was made into law while he was in office and how historically significant the legislation was. Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, tons more. LBJ was as influential as it gets. If not for Vietnam he'd be on every top ten presidents list until the end of time.
Yeah. I noticed it but just let it kind hover in my memory for a later date. The guy is just out of it. He acts like he's some badass but he's also simultaneously trying to solicit tronz friends in here by asking to meet up with a dude that claimed to be a genius as a ten year old. I mean, the dude is a weirdo.
Basketball is a individual game with a team concept. Bruce has no understanding how to teach fundamentals on offense or defense. The forwards lack positioning. They never put their body on big men by meeting them 15-18 feet away. They completely give up position over and over. The perfect example of that is McLemore. When we played A&m he let Robert Williams run willy nilly around getting to the block. A man that size and talent has already won when he’s on the block. The big men also have no clue how to block out. The quality of your team defense shows the most when there’s an offensive rebound. Numerous times this year any time there was an offensive rebound, we gave up easy points every time. The players never see the ball and man on defense, and that leads to many easy lay ins. Players also never defend the three point arc well. We constantly let teams have their best 3 point shooting against us.
No kid wants to play defense, it’s all effort. So it’s the coaches job to instill the importance of it. That’s where Bruce lacks. He tries to be their friend, and his plan is to out talent other teams and run up and down on them. That leads to losing to elite teams that can run and defend. It’s why Jay Wright Beilein are top 5 coaches in the NCAA. They mix great defense with great offense. Coaching is all about matchups, player development, substitutions, and timing of timeouts. Bruce is poor in all of those aspects. Part of the reason why we were so piss poor in San Diego was all his subbing. This is basketball, players need to get a rhythm. Subbing in and out every minute hurts that. We have 8 players, and these kids are used to playing 7-8 games a weekend in AAU. Not to mention they’re 18-21 years old. If you get that tired with timeouts, you just don’t want it bad enough.
On offense, the biggest problem is there’s poor ball movement and player movement off the ball. Basketball is about screens on and off the ball, with moving the ball without taking a dribble. Jared, staph, and Brown do such a terrible job of it. They always have to take meaningless dribbles. You’re either dribbling to drive and create penetration, or you’re wasting the shot clock. Think about the amount of times we did nothing for the first 15-20 seconds of the shot clock and kicked it out to Harper. Bruce is yelling from the sideline like a psycho all game, when he should be taking care of these problems individually In practice.
The problem was this year Jared was the only player on the team that could pass. So, eventually coaches figured out to get on Harper before half court, wear him down, and use your size to keep from penetration. Then take away Brown catch and shoot, and we look terrible on offense.
Look at the development of every player closely. Spencer has barely progressed and looks like he’s never played basketball in his life. Staph has barely progressed, still shoots iso 20 footers, and cannot use his right hand efficiently.
Basketball is not football. It’s a simple game made difficult by players not knowing how to play the game correctly. Look at Michigan and Villanova play. Those boys are coached, ours are not.
Bruce is a top 20 coach, and a perfect fit for our situation. Hopefully the new assistant takes care of some of the problems I mentioned. College basketball is 60% recruiting and motivating. Bruce is one of the best at both.
I think Avery is a terrible coach, but he outcoached Bruce. Him not picking and rolling Sexton over and over is criminal. I think he will be rookie of the year in the NBA next year depending on where he lands.
Good coaches make a team with horrible talent better. In his first 3 years, not one time did the team get better. Was hard to watch, and without talent on the floor Bruce’s coach is magnified.
Yeah, it's weird meeting people off here imnsho. I would meet two people from here. Fatz......I know he's a normal dude and I've spoken with him for many years in normal conversation outside of a message board. I would also meet @Denim Vest . I think Denim would smoke a Harley Davidson cig with me while watching old Harlem globetrotter reruns.
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I agree, but that’s not how I look at it. My POV is how it treats society as a whole over the years they’re out of office.
