some fuggin scary schit, man. In some of the vids you can hear the bullets "zinging" by and impacting around folks. Crazy as hell!
OT: Have yall seent this shooter vid?
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I had not seen this one Ice. I saw a video from a police body cam earlier tonight.
Hard to put my thoughts into words. I will never understand why or how anyone could do this to innocent people just enjoying a concert--or we can go on--the nightclub slaughter--the school kids--the young Amish girls and the list goes on and on. Just unimaginable evil and horror.
I saw the pictures and bios of some of the victims. I don't usually tear up, not trying to be a macho man but it takes a lot and when the blues hit, they are difficult to stop, but I teared up as my heart hurts for the murdered ones, their families and the injured. Off duty police officers, a high school cheerleader who was making plans for her life, a special ed. teacher, a male nurse from TN who died protecting his surgeon wife and the list goes on and on.
So very sad and tragic and it makes me sick to my stomach.
I have no answer and I know many are being thrown out. My prayer is for someone who is inclined to do something like this, to get professional help and get on the right meds to control whatever demon or urge that lurks in their brain or body that would cause someone to even think about doing such a horrible act.
This will not be an easy fix and if someone is just eaten up with hatred and anger but is good at hiding it, I know of very few practical ways to stop them in a country that recognizes and supports basic freedom and liberty.
This is just for one possible venue--a hotel near a large event that is planned-security like I saw in Istanbul and Ankara at the local Sheraton. American hotels are possible targets over there. When guests arrive they and their bags/luggage are put through TSA style metal detection machines. If someone has a gun, then, assuming they get by the cross-examination that will be coming, the gun is taken until the guest departs unless they have a Turkish permit and a good reason for the weapon-and we are talking about a pistol--a machine gun---well, I can't imagine what they would do. This was 10 years ago. With all the crap going on in Syria and the coup attempt, and the issues with the PDK and now Isis, I have heard just checking into a Turkish hotel has become much harder--sort of like going through US Customs.
There is only one way in and out too. Security is all around the outside. They make the guest unlock the truck and they use mirrors to examine the underside of the car. Cameras are all over the place.
America is a free open country but it would not surprise me to see some changes coming in the next few years--maybe not as strict as Turkey--but we shall see.
Prayers for those poor souls and their families and for the injured.
Pardon my late night ramble. Papa Bear just got wound up.
Blaze ON--Blaze ON!!
Hard to put my thoughts into words. I will never understand why or how anyone could do this to innocent people just enjoying a concert--or we can go on--the nightclub slaughter--the school kids--the young Amish girls and the list goes on and on. Just unimaginable evil and horror.
I saw the pictures and bios of some of the victims. I don't usually tear up, not trying to be a macho man but it takes a lot and when the blues hit, they are difficult to stop, but I teared up as my heart hurts for the murdered ones, their families and the injured. Off duty police officers, a high school cheerleader who was making plans for her life, a special ed. teacher, a male nurse from TN who died protecting his surgeon wife and the list goes on and on.
So very sad and tragic and it makes me sick to my stomach.
I have no answer and I know many are being thrown out. My prayer is for someone who is inclined to do something like this, to get professional help and get on the right meds to control whatever demon or urge that lurks in their brain or body that would cause someone to even think about doing such a horrible act.
This will not be an easy fix and if someone is just eaten up with hatred and anger but is good at hiding it, I know of very few practical ways to stop them in a country that recognizes and supports basic freedom and liberty.
This is just for one possible venue--a hotel near a large event that is planned-security like I saw in Istanbul and Ankara at the local Sheraton. American hotels are possible targets over there. When guests arrive they and their bags/luggage are put through TSA style metal detection machines. If someone has a gun, then, assuming they get by the cross-examination that will be coming, the gun is taken until the guest departs unless they have a Turkish permit and a good reason for the weapon-and we are talking about a pistol--a machine gun---well, I can't imagine what they would do. This was 10 years ago. With all the crap going on in Syria and the coup attempt, and the issues with the PDK and now Isis, I have heard just checking into a Turkish hotel has become much harder--sort of like going through US Customs.
There is only one way in and out too. Security is all around the outside. They make the guest unlock the truck and they use mirrors to examine the underside of the car. Cameras are all over the place.
America is a free open country but it would not surprise me to see some changes coming in the next few years--maybe not as strict as Turkey--but we shall see.
Prayers for those poor souls and their families and for the injured.
Pardon my late night ramble. Papa Bear just got wound up.
Blaze ON--Blaze ON!!
PB, these late night musings are part of what makes the GREG great. BlazeOn
This is a great post - honestly. Love how you didn't politicize it and just gave some honest, heartfelt and powerful words on a really difficult subject. You're one of my favorite posters - I mean that. Glad you're an auburn...(cough) I mean JMU fan.
Regardless, the video evoked a lot of anger in me, something that's rare. To hear the fear in everyone's voices, a girl asking 'why is there blood?', the bullets ripping through the air (likely landing in people) and the fact that there's one sick demented fvk behind all of it, with no apparent motive other than wanting to cause as much pain, harm and destruction as possible to innocent human beings? Not to mention the fact that there's nothing anyone can do at this point.
Anyways - thanks to @x-iceman-x for posting the vid.
Hard to believe all those shots came from 1 man. Unreal
I don't find it hard to believe. Someone who isn't mentally retarded or broke could have easily pulled off what this man did. He must have been a terrible shot. Get someone with experience, the elevation along with that many targets, and there would be a lot more deaths.
link to hitting 600 people? I still haven't seen a number published on the number of people shot.
yeah, that was number of injured...there were a lot of folks that were trampled but not shot.
When I say 600 I am rounding up the 58 dead and 500 injured. Maybe some injuries were trampled etc but still was a lot.
