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++++++Boogs vs. UVA Official Final Four Game Thread++++++

Something that made no sense to me, immediately after the missed double-dribble call, was why you foul a guy who is at half court with only 1.5 seconds left about to make a desperation heave that has a <1% chance of going in.

That decision also russells me to no end.

I mean, the game was OVER.

I agree. Make him take the crazy shot. We were the better team, NO DOUBT
 
Yeah put him on iggy like an adult now. Really I just wanted him to consider his health cause the boogs are here for the long haul. This blueblood rivalry isn’t for everyone but it’s still the classiest in the country as evidenced by our real UK Greggers.
same, what an amazing feature
 
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Something that made no sense to me, immediately after the missed double-dribble call, was why you foul a guy who is at half court with only 1.5 seconds left about to make a desperation heave that has a <1% chance of going in.

That decision also russells me to no end.

I mean, the game was OVER.
just play'n the game bruh...tough way to go out.
had to know the HYGs were doomed as soon as the whistle blew.

NCAA couldn't handle the handsomeness of this AU squad, had to find a way to get a bunch of white oafs some screen time.

Hate it for those kids, but next season we got 5 new HYGs in the rotation. Leggggo!

Thanks to all the Seniors

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Something that made no sense to me, immediately after the missed double-dribble call, was why you foul a guy who is at half court with only 1.5 seconds left about to make a desperation heave that has a <1% chance of going in.

That decision also russells me to no end.

I mean, the game was OVER.

If Bryce gets doesn't foul him, there is no one defending him, he gets to set his feet for a normal three and it would have been uncontested.

The foul was the right call. The execution post foul was not.
 
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I tell you what these guys handled this with far more professionalism and grace than most of us. Doesn't mean they're not hurting, but they also aren't wagging their finger at anyone else either. That's the game, hopefully there is a next time...and next time it's their's.
 
Ugh I don’t want to relive this one but it’s impossible. I thought the foul was fine. Maybe he chucked it up trying to act like it was a shooting foul. Not really sure why they got to inbound it 15 ft closer to the goal but I’ll just assume that’s where it was supposed to be. So many what ifs and all sound better than how it played out.
 
Set his feet for a normal 3? Wouldn’t it have been about 35 ft? And you think he had time to set his feet?

Bryce had Bruce not pushed him, he isn't off balanced, can move up another 10 feet, set his feet and shoot.

Not saying he would have made it, but it would have been a clean shot.
 
Still mad, still heartbroken for our HYGs. Sick and fvcking tired of refs in all sports having no accountability for missing calls like the DD. Glad Bruce and the boys handled the loss with class because the only class I’m interested in is taking that motherfvcker to school, in a dark alley ... with a baseball bat. Still infuriated is probably a more apt description.
 
Bryce had Bruce not pushed him, he isn't off balanced, can move up another 10 feet, set his feet and shoot.

Not saying he would have made it, but it would have been a clean shot.

But if Bryce doesn’t foul, he’s still in good defensive position and can take away a clean look. With 1.5 seconds left, the best look he’s going to get is probably from the logo with Bryce harassing him.

Haven’t really seen it mentioned, but I thought we should’ve given a foul after Mac made both FTs and Guy hit that ridiculous shot in the corner since we had fouls to give. Foul at halfcourt or on the pass to Guy, then allow your defense to set up for an in-bounds play up 4 with 8-9 seconds left. I think it would’ve helped us have our defense more set and clear on assignments. Plus, it would’ve forced a few more seconds off the clock.
 
I think foul was right call. Disappointing thing is that if they had called first contact they would have been throwing it in from much deeper (saw this but can’t 100% verify). Calling the foul where they called it moved the ball way up.
 
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But if Bryce doesn’t foul, he’s still in good defensive position and can take away a clean look. With 1.5 seconds left, the best look he’s going to get is probably from the logo with Bryce harassing him.

Haven’t really seen it mentioned, but I thought we should’ve given a foul after Mac made both FTs and Guy hit that ridiculous shot in the corner since we had fouls to give. Foul at halfcourt or on the pass to Guy, then allow your defense to set up for an in-bounds play up 4 with 8-9 seconds left. I think it would’ve helped us have our defense more set and clear on assignments. Plus, it would’ve forced a few more seconds off the clock.

Bryce didn't would him until he was getting passed him (almost fouled in the process of the shot).

I think there is other strategies that could have been used, but the one we used was not a bad one.
 
Set his feet for a normal 3? Wouldn’t it have been about 35 ft? And you think he had time to set his feet?
He was 40’ from the basket with 1.5 seconds left. The foul allowed them to move the ball to the baseline without time running off the clock.

Not understanding why we foul there instead of making him heave a long desperation 3 with Bryce right on his hip.
 
Bruce was all class last night after the game. He’s a hot commodity right now. There are rumblings Arizona and UCLA maybe after him. Auburn needs to give him a blank check. He’s proven he can win, and has done it with two different schools in the sec. I can see UCLA, but I don’t see the appeal of a shit team like Arizona.
 
Bruce was all class last night after the game. He’s a hot commodity right now. There are rumblings Arizona and UCLA maybe after him. Auburn needs to give him a blank check. He’s proven he can win, and has done it with two different schools in the sec. I can see UCLA, but I don’t see the appeal of a shit team like Arizona.
No chance he’s legitimately on either of those teams’ actual radars but it’s good agent fodder to get Bruce the raise he deserves. He ain’t leaving. He’ll get his salary bumped to like 4 milly a year and continue building his AU blue blood legacy
 
No chance he’s legitimately on either of those teams’ actual radars but it’s good agent fodder to get Bruce the raise he deserves. He ain’t leaving. He’ll get his salary bumped to like 4 milly a year and continue building his AU blue blood legacy
He is treated like a king now and will get better players, which is scary. Like I said, UCLA is the only one appealing for Bruce because of the wx, women, and they have the most titles, and can give him a nice chunk of change. I don’t see Bruce leaving either though. When you win the sec championship he was in tears you could tell he love his kids and the school a lot.
 
He was 40’ from the basket with 1.5 seconds left. The foul allowed them to move the ball to the baseline without time running off the clock.

Not understanding why we foul there instead of making him heave a long desperation 3 with Bryce right on his hip.

Really the only argument to be made is that Bryce could have made the decision not to foul once the ball went off his foot. Maybe that's something a senior could do in real time, but you have to remember that Bruce called for the foul with way more time on the clock than 1.5 seconds. If that ball doesn't go off his foot, then they aren't heaving a long shot. 5.2 seconds is plenty of time to get the ball to the 3 pt line. It might have been a contested shot, or maybe they had something drawn up no way to know now.
 
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Like I said, UCLA is the only one appealing for Bruce because of the wx, women, and they have the most titles, and can give him a nice chunk of change.
UCLA is notoriously cheap. And they act like they can underpay just for the privilege to coach there. Alford was making less there (in LA mind you) than Bruce is currently making and UCLA just decided not to hire bc they’re too miserly to pay his buyout. UCLA are idiots.
 
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UCLA is notoriously cheap. And they act like they can underpay just for the privilege to coach there. Alford was making less there (in LA mind you) than Bruce is currently making and UCLA just decided not to hire bc they’re too miserly to pay his buyout. UCLA are idiots.
Yeah, not sure why they tried to throw their shit money at cal. Kind of pissed me off. I hope that trash school continues to suck
 
Bruce was all class last night after the game. He’s a hot commodity right now. There are rumblings Arizona and UCLA maybe after him. Auburn needs to give him a blank check. He’s proven he can win, and has done it with two different schools in the sec. I can see UCLA, but I don’t see the appeal of a shit team like Arizona.
UCLA isn’t the same of old. Bigger than AU no doubt but still. It’s not even top 5 interest in LA with NFL, basebaball, NBA, USC. And the cost of living is at least 4X higher than most places and especially Alabama. But I think Bruce wants to stay bc, let’s be honest, he would leave as the best b-ball coach at AU ever and leave a legacy. AU has the money and will pay him.
 
Something that made no sense to me, immediately after the missed double-dribble call, was why you foul a guy who is at half court with only 1.5 seconds left about to make a desperation heave that has a <1% chance of going in.

That decision also russells me to no end.

I mean, the game was OVER.
Agreed. I realize we had another foul to give, but that was an error. I assume Bryce did not realize there was only 1.5 left at that point and was following the plan from the huddle to use both fouls as they brought the ball up. In hindsight, I am sure Bruce and Bryce wish that Bryce had backed off as soon as Jerome bobbled the ball and double dribbled. If he backs away there, its a desperation heave and the game is over. Should not have mattered if the refs didn't miss the obvious DD. It is unreal how many things had to go wrong for us to lose that game.
 
Gang lets be honest..we lost bc we missed too many shots and came out poorly out of the half.
The thing that sucks about the foul is for 59 minutes and 59 seconds the game was called a different way. It’s a shame the ref decided to get super tight after swallowing their whistles for the whole game.
 
If Bryce gets doesn't foul him, there is no one defending him, he gets to set his feet for a normal three and it would have been uncontested.

The foul was the right call. The execution post foul was not.
There was only 1.5 left as he was crossing mid court when the foul was called. He was not going to get a normal shot off, it would have been a close to half court heave. Bryce was there and could have just defended him to make the run into the half court shot more difficult.

The plan out of the huddle was to foul twice as they brought the ball up since we had 2 fouls to give. Bryce was following the plan so I don't fault him. When Jerome bobbled it though (and double dribbled), he was not going to be able to get close enough for anything other than a close to half court heave. In hindsight, I am sure Bruce and Bryce both wish we had backed off and just defended him as opposed to giving the 2nd intentional foul. That's really easy to say with the benefit of hindsight though. Refs should have called the double dribble and it wouldn't have mattered.
 
But if Bryce doesn’t foul, he’s still in good defensive position and can take away a clean look. With 1.5 seconds left, the best look he’s going to get is probably from the logo with Bryce harassing him.

Haven’t really seen it mentioned, but I thought we should’ve given a foul after Mac made both FTs and Guy hit that ridiculous shot in the corner since we had fouls to give. Foul at halfcourt or on the pass to Guy, then allow your defense to set up for an in-bounds play up 4 with 8-9 seconds left. I think it would’ve helped us have our defense more set and clear on assignments. Plus, it would’ve forced a few more seconds off the clock.
Good point. I think the plan to foul twice on the last sequence was fine, but after he double dribbled, he cost himself 1-2 secs. He was not going to get closer than the logo there which would have been a very low percentage prayer. In hindsight we would have been better off not fouling there, but at game speed its really difficult to expect a guy to alter the plan and not foul again.

Also agree in hindsight fouling on the previous possession would have been advisable. Disrupting them as they tried to rush the ball up would have been helpful.

A series of really unlikely shit had to happen for us to lose this game. Really sucks our run had to end that way.
 
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He is treated like a king now and will get better players, which is scary. Like I said, UCLA is the only one appealing for Bruce because of the wx, women, and they have the most titles, and can give him a nice chunk of change. I don’t see Bruce leaving either though. When you win the sec championship he was in tears you could tell he love his kids and the school a lot.
UCLA is a terrible job for a coach that is already at a place where he can win and get paid top 10 money. Their small group of boosters are fanatics who expect to get the next John Wooden and will continue to fire every guy who does not live up to that impossible to meet standard.
 
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Really the only argument to be made is that Bryce could have made the decision not to foul once the ball went off his foot. Maybe that's something a senior could do in real time, but you have to remember that Bruce called for the foul with way more time on the clock than 1.5 seconds. If that ball doesn't go off his foot, then they aren't heaving a long shot. 5.2 seconds is plenty of time to get the ball to the 3 pt line. It might have been a contested shot, or maybe they had something drawn up no way to know now.
Agreed. There was no way to know that Jerome clown was going to chaulkie the ball of his leg trying to go behind the back. If that doesn't happen, Bryce fouls him before he gets to mid court with 3ish seconds left which would have been the correct strategic move. Jerome having to stop and go back for the ball caused Bryce not to foul him until he got past mid-court. Really tough to ask Bryce on the fly to decide not to foul there when it was the plan.
 
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We have a Final 4 level team next year if Jared Wiley, and Chuma are here.

If those guys return, Auburn is going to be a solid team next year. So many SEC teams are going to lose key personnel to either graduation or the draft. I know we will probably lose 3 guys to the draft along with the graduation of Travis. I certainly expect Auburn, UK, Tennessee (depending what Williams decides to do) to be at the top of the league again next year. LSU potentially will be a virtual dumpster fire once the dust settles on the FBI investigation. On a closing note, I’ll say this. With the infusion of the new coaches coming into the league (Williams, Oates, Stackhouse, and Musselman if the reports are true about him being close to a deal with the Hogs), this league is about to get even tougher. It’s already like running through a gauntlet as it is.
 
If those guys return, Auburn is going to be a solid team next year. So many SEC teams are going to lose key personnel to either graduation or the draft. I know we will probably lose 3 guys to the draft along with the graduation of Travis. I certainly expect Auburn, UK, Tennessee (depending what Williams decides to do) to be at the top of the league again next year. LSU potentially will be a virtual dumpster fire once the dust settles on the FBI investigation. On a closing note, I’ll say this. With the infusion of the new coaches coming into the league (Williams, Oates, Stackhouse, and Musselman if the reports are true about him being close to a deal with the Hogs), this league is about to get even tougher. It’s already like running through a gauntlet as it is.
Yeah I think I read where 8 of the 12 coaches have been to the sweet 16 and 6 have now been to a final four. It’s gonna be the best league too to bottom. Brice said before the season that he thinks we will have a better team but will have a worse conference record bc the league is better and he was right. GOnna Ben tougher than ever no doubt.
 
If those guys return, Auburn is going to be a solid team next year. So many SEC teams are going to lose key personnel to either graduation or the draft. I know we will probably lose 3 guys to the draft along with the graduation of Travis. I certainly expect Auburn, UK, Tennessee (depending what Williams decides to do) to be at the top of the league again next year. LSU potentially will be a virtual dumpster fire once the dust settles on the FBI investigation. On a closing note, I’ll say this. With the infusion of the new coaches coming into the league (Williams, Oates, Stackhouse, and Musselman if the reports are true about him being close to a deal with the Hogs), this league is about to get even tougher. It’s already like running through a gauntlet as it is.
Welcome to the Greg
 
If those guys return, Auburn is going to be a solid team next year. So many SEC teams are going to lose key personnel to either graduation or the draft. I know we will probably lose 3 guys to the draft along with the graduation of Travis. I certainly expect Auburn, UK, Tennessee (depending what Williams decides to do) to be at the top of the league again next year. LSU potentially will be a virtual dumpster fire once the dust settles on the FBI investigation. On a closing note, I’ll say this. With the infusion of the new coaches coming into the league (Williams, Oates, Stackhouse, and Musselman if the reports are true about him being close to a deal with the Hogs), this league is about to get even tougher. It’s already like running through a gauntlet as it is.
^^^ Now here lies a solid basketball head. Stay around & Go KATS
 
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If those guys return, Auburn is going to be a solid team next year. So many SEC teams are going to lose key personnel to either graduation or the draft. I know we will probably lose 3 guys to the draft along with the graduation of Travis. I certainly expect Auburn, UK, Tennessee (depending what Williams decides to do) to be at the top of the league again next year. LSU potentially will be a virtual dumpster fire once the dust settles on the FBI investigation. On a closing note, I’ll say this. With the infusion of the new coaches coming into the league (Williams, Oates, Stackhouse, and Musselman if the reports are true about him being close to a deal with the Hogs), this league is about to get even tougher. It’s already like running through a gauntlet as it is.

Great post. Stick around!
 
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Thank you, gents! I heard about this board at Cats Illustrated. One thing I have learned in my short time on your board is this: you have a knowledgeable and passionate fan base for the game of basketball. There is no reason why opposing fans can’t have respectful and civil discussions about their teams without resorting to name calling. Cheers!
 
Thank you, gents! I heard about this board at Cats Illustrated. One thing I have learned in my short time on your board is this: you have a knowledgeable and passionate fan base for the game of basketball. There is no reason why opposing fans can’t have respectful and civil discussions about their teams without resorting to name calling. Cheers!
My man. Wish some of your bros at rupp rafters could be cool but some just too much homer in them
 
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RistDownAU, unfortunately, I believe every fan base has its share of knuckleheads. Some people are just too over-the-top about their fandom and treat it as life or death. Don’t get me wrong, I love my teams and want them to succeed. Win or lose, the sun does come up the next day. I think it’s sad when people allow their happiness to be determined by the performance of 17-22 year olds on the gridiron or the court. By the way, I love your avatar. “The Pirate” is one of my favorite personalities in sports.
 
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