WOW...just saw the dawgs are a heavy favorite to land another monster OG Jamaree Salyer
Sure glad we face these guys every year.
Sure glad we face these guys every year.
OT: SEC Football Recruiting
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I may be in the minority, but I really do wish that AU and UGA would move the game up earlier in the schedule like Bama with UT every year. That UGA into Bama into a possibly SEC title game is just murderous if AU ever wants to win anything.
agreed, with UGA on the rise again it's a bit of an ask for the team every year.
When both of them are good or great, yeah that's going to be nearly impossible. That's going to be needing 3 wins in 4 weeks over crazy good competition most likely. I guess its possible if we entered UGA unbeaten we could drop that, beat Saban, get to the SECCG and get revenge the same way UGA just did but that feels like a crazy thread the needle scenario that won't be likely often at all.
The 2 years we got to the NC game we got to face good but not deeply talented teams in USCe and Mizzou. Both we simply overpowered with our superior talent. We won't be able to do that to UGA anytime soon. At best we'll be level with them on talent, more than likely we'll be needing superior QB play and some other difference makers in order to hang.
I have always thought this as well but the problem is we are kind of screwed either way when LSWho is good. You end up with two of the three close together.
true. But it's all cyclical. UGA and Bama just happen to be the beasts right now. I think LSU is about to start sucking or at least be just average as long as they have Ogeron as HC. Ole Miss is obviously gonna tank. And odds would suggest that Miss St will regress since they're replacing their best coach of all time. A&M will probably be a force, but I think it'll take Jimbo a few years.
I think Moorehead will do well, possibly better than Mullen, if he can take advantage in recruiting with LSU being down. MSU is in a much better place as an organization and has a higher level of prestige than it did when Mullen came in. That won't mean a whole lot most years. They'll be 3rd-4th in the West consistently, but I could see them playing a bigger role as a giant killer if they can take advantage of Arky, LSU, and OM being down.
Just saw a post on the boog where that TE from Huntsville Gus wanted so badly took a blue shirt at bama instead of coming to AU.
I don’t think as a parent (which I’m not) i’d allow my son to turn down scholarship offers to pay tuition.
Not an offer for sports, but I did this for two of mine back when things were a bit different in terms of my monthly bring home pay. Both got into UGA and the Hope paid all tuition so long as they made the grades. AU offered hardly anything but I still sent them and paid a mint--for me.
They grew up going to games with me and their mom and are all AU.
I spent a lot but for me it was worth it. Things change and I told our 13 year old that if he can get the Hope at UGA then he best start barking and liking the colors red and black. Papa Bear does not have the money coming in that I did in 2005-2011.
He will hate it but once he sees some freshmen coeds, and they have some nice ones, then that should help. AU out of state is not worth it--almost like sending a young adult to Vandy. UGA is not a bad school, either. In fact, it is a very good one though I will not admit this to my Humper buddies.
With this young man, his Dad must have the cash and he has two brothers at Bama, I think, so I understand. Just trying to make him happy and the family must not like AU.
In this case though, there is no Hope for him to mess up at AU--just act right and do not violate team rules and all is paid for four years so this would be tough to turn down. You can lose Hope in one semester and it is very tough to get it back.
I know from a young lady I have over there--sigh. She was not as Orange and Blue as the rest of the family--she likes AU but not enough to ask me to fund out of state--she loves her Papa Bear. Not a doggie fan either--she just keeps quiet which is wise for her to do.
So much for my early am ramble.
Blaze ON!!!
He would be as a blue shirt. It’s just a delayed 5 months.
They are really happy to have Young Fields and Zeus, but they are over the moon with this OL class they are brining in. With the 4 young studs they brought in last year Pittman finally feels like he has “his style” guys across the board. Not to mention if Cade Mayes gets onboard later today. Heard one of their corches laught about the fact that they now have OL talent that is very bama like.
Glad as a boog fan that we have different needs/skillsets that we recruit, so won’t be cruiting head-2-head against jawja in thr future.
WDB!
I've resigned to the fact that we aren't going to out recruit the big dogs when they are at their best. We just aren't built to be a program that recruits top 3 classes more than once in a decade basically. We can out recruit a lot of people, but we're never going to go toe to toe with an on fire UGA, UA or UF type and beat them in the rankings.
We're going to have to develop better than them, scheme in a way that gives us an advantage and hit on a few transcendent players. 2004 was because we had 2 great RB's, a QB that developed nicely and some really good defensive players along with an experienced OL that played great together. 2010 was Cam and Fairly and a scheme on offense that bothered DC's a lot at the time. 2013 was Nick Marshall, Tre being a perfect fit for that offense and again...scheme paired with a great OL and FB that all complimented each other perfectly. This year's more modest success was mostly due to an upgrade at QB and a lot of defensive guys who panned out really well and who have developed nicely (Holland looked like nothing a year ago IMO, and grew up FAST).
This likely means lean years around great years. Because when we don't have a few difference makers or we miss on QB's we are going to be very mediocre. We simply won't have the stable of raw talent to win 9-10 games when those pieces are missing. But when those pieces do arrive, we have the talent to compliment them and make a run. I'm not sure there is a realistic path to changing this, but I'm open to hearing suggestions.
That's boog logic. Our recruiting is inconsistent because our product is inconsistent and our recruiting strategies and talent evaluators have been weak. When we do have good years we haven't had good program managers to take advantage of them in terms of marketing and recruiting. We could build and take advantage of momentum with real leadership.
I fully expect to get outcrooted by Bama and UGA. Maybe win a battle or 2 with them. Now we don't get any and lose a ton to the likes of Clemson and SCar. I see we lost another instate kid to Stanford. I mean good for the youngster but that's not supposed to happen round here.
it’s why someone with an actual vision of how to build a sustainable program - for the long haul - is so imperative... where we’re located, we have access to more than enough talent to compete with anyone... we just need a BRUCE like figure with the knowledge - vision - and sales ability to get everyone on the same page
I don’t expect to win titles at a higher rate than we have recently... our highs are appropriately high and common enough to satisfy any reasonable person...
but if Rotnei doesn’t go 3 full cycles in between stud DL hauls - or at least signs 3 B+ classes between A+ classes - instead of complete duds...
and we ever sign an all conference caliber CB without Boom and T-Rob...
and we don’t go multiple years wihout signing SEC caliber OT’s...
and we don’t waste multiple seasons without 1 legitimate SEC caliber QB...
and we develop just 1 high school QB on our own (Gus has corched here 8 years and we’ve never won with a QB he signed out of high school)...
those are not unreasonable expectations... and they’re the difference between our floor being 9-4/10-3 with spikes to 12-14 wins, instead of 7-6/8-5 with the same spikes
I don’t expect to win titles at a higher rate than we have recently... our highs are appropriately high and common enough to satisfy any reasonable person...
but if Rotnei doesn’t go 3 full cycles in between stud DL hauls - or at least signs 3 B+ classes between A+ classes - instead of complete duds...
and we ever sign an all conference caliber CB without Boom and T-Rob...
and we don’t go multiple years wihout signing SEC caliber OT’s...
and we don’t waste multiple seasons without 1 legitimate SEC caliber QB...
and we develop just 1 high school QB on our own (Gus has corched here 8 years and we’ve never won with a QB he signed out of high school)...
those are not unreasonable expectations... and they’re the difference between our floor being 9-4/10-3 with spikes to 12-14 wins, instead of 7-6/8-5 with the same spikes
Clemson is the example that would contest my previous post. They aren't any higher on the historical food chain than we are and they've done what we haven't been able to. I think some of that is that some of that is timing, and they had a good run at a good time and that helped. But they also really did a great job of taking success and BUILDING on it, which AU has never done well.
Post 2004 was too much internal war for us to really parlay that success
Post 2010 we were saddled with Gene Chizik trying to make that season turn into sustained success
2013 Gus thought he solved college football and didn't push.
I'd like to see AU take a great year and then push hard, with a great staff in place. Maybe we could be what Clemson has become. I think we'd need to do it at a time like in 2004 when our in state rival wasn't at historical highs TBH though.
All of this. It's like people forget how shitty Gus' overall recruiting is because they see that TOP 10 designation every year.
we blew our best chance when we couldn’t capitalize on CAM... Clemson has built what we’ve never been able to, and, hate him if you want but Dabo is the BRUCE type salesman we need - and it’s taken til this year to watch how they’ve reloaded for me to finally come to grips with his dumbass being an elite of the elite college corch...
we can still be a great alternative to the BAMA, UGA, and now UT type model... only now we’ve got Clemson to compete with - and FSU, UF transitioning away from the Saban model and positioning themselves as viable alternatives... I’m still hopeful with Malik and Joey we can break the curse and solve the HS QB problem - but our window is closing
we can still be a great alternative to the BAMA, UGA, and now UT type model... only now we’ve got Clemson to compete with - and FSU, UF transitioning away from the Saban model and positioning themselves as viable alternatives... I’m still hopeful with Malik and Joey we can break the curse and solve the HS QB problem - but our window is closing
Clemson has built on playing championship ball for 4 yrs now. They recruit studs at QB, WR and on D. They are setup nicely to continue what they have built. Their facilities are top notch. They have a corch that gets it when it comes to building on sucess. Now uga has that ball rolling and it won’t stop now that they have had success on the field. They have had amazing sucess getting a ton of 5* skilled talent across the board. Now they have solidified their OL cruiting in the last 2 classes. Once those guys get corched up by Pittman it is going to be tough to beat those guys on a consistent basis. Boogs can bury their heads in the sand if they want to, but uga is about one year away from really being the bama of thre east.
The biggest plus for Clemson is that they can recruit in the heart of SEC country but don't have to play they same schedule. Pull off a win or two over a SEC school every year or so and beat one or two good ACC teams and you're in the playoffs every year. Clemson is pulling in great talent every year and they do an even better job of developing it.
Oh my god.. I’d give both my testicles for Kirby Smart to be the HC at AWBARN
Whats old corch from TBB saying about their epic early season in-state recruiting flop? I mean they did let 2 elite QB’s get away. If Kirby was really satan jr he would have kept them from going to schools that they might have to play in the playoffs down the road. Kid still has some work to do to be a true savage
Yeah and the class ain’t finished yet.
They already have 3 of the top 29 players for 2019. Got to take advantage of the momentum while you can.
UGA signing a class almost as good as the ones I’d sign on XBOX... someone needs to check Kirby’s sliders to see what difficulty he’s got them set at
Y’all don’t worry, @rice says there’s nothing to be concerned about, Gus has had better recruiting classes than UGA and Clemson over the past years. Bunch of Nancies
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