Boogs v Arkansas

[Boytano]

@DufnerFanBoy agree, seems like they've been in a quandary as whether they should rest the guys (Staph was ill, Jared was playing tons of minutes, Bryce has a shoulder and ankle, Chuma is taking on more minutes, and i'm pretty sure Horace has been banged up too) or practice these guys so they can game plan more. This final 5 game run has been brutal when you look at the types of teams they've played and they way they need to attack and defend them. Agree it just seems like an experiment out there at times.

 

[anon_xdkqbpnrbtnct]

To top it all off, I left the window on my car down last night, so now I'm walking around at work with completely soaked pants.

Wife wrong me a manifesto-sized Sam's shopping list the other day and it got soaked when I left the window down. Rather than admit that I left the window down I lied and said I had the list. Said list is completely unreadable.

 

[Docdumpsta]

Dis teeem playz itz azz off but loooozin SMACKLASHACK wuz a TUFF BLOW. We ain't neeerly az good witout hiz azz on the floor!!

 

[Harvey Specter]

Let's discuss how the REC managed to know we would be playing for the conference title and scheduled us a Saturday > Tuesday turnaround, playing in two of the toughest places to play in the conference.

 

[Boytano]

To top it all off, I left the window on my car down last night, so now I'm walking around at work with completely soaked pants.

It will be tough to win if Bryce and Jared keep being cold from three. I don't think it will stay like this, but gotta get it fixed. Wish we had more depth so we could've rested Bryce the last 2-3 weeks, as he clearly needed to sit and heal up.

The rest from Saturday to Friday will be huge

we need some soft handed volunteers to handle these studz ina way as to make them relax and visualize the ball reaching it's goal.

Spoiler

 

[jeramye]

It's not a collapse. We peeked and played way above our heads(credit to Bruce) for most of the season. We are still playing hard, but the experts had us losing the past two games and I'm not surprised we did. Winning at the O'Connell Center and at Bud Walton is a tall task for any team; especially in back to back games. Those teams are taller and IMO more talented, yet we fought our asses off and had chances at times. Probably would have won at home or on a neutral site. This team has played so well we forget how damn tough it is to win on the road. Two weeks ago I said I see 5 losses, but hoped we could sneak one out on the road at UF or at Arky. It didn't happen, but I don't see it as a collapse. We faced two teams that are fighting to stay in the tournament at their house and IMO your fandom has made you ignorant to the reality of the situation. JMO

For the 3rd time...it won’t be a collapse if we beat Carolina at home like we should. I do not understand how we call it anything but that if we lose that game. You keep talking about the road losses while ignoring that I stated those will be 100% forgotten if we take care of business Saturday.

Do you really contend this won’t feel like a collapse if we fall to a 12th place USCe for the 2nd time in a few weeks, this time at home, to lose the SEC title?

 

[WDE_Tarp]

 

[Harvey Specter]

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Brutal

 

[Denim Vest]

he went FULL JUCO SPECIAL BOWERS MODE.

Never ever do that.

If you got a tape of just possessions Malik was in on I think we lose those minutes something like 48-14. That may not have been the case but it felt that way.

-14 in 15 mins on the floor. 4TOs. Nobody else had more than 2. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=191208

My goodness young buck stop dribbling. Stop making terrible passes and fouls. How many times does Steven have to tell you!

 

[L I G E R]

For the 3rd time...it won’t be a collapse if we beat Carolina at home like we should. I do not understand how we call it anything but that if we lose that game. You keep talking about the road losses while ignoring that I stated those will be 100% forgotten if we take care of business Saturday.

Do you really contend this won’t feel like a collapse if we fall to a 12th place USCe for the 2nd time in a few weeks, this time at home, to lose the SEC title?

It’d be a collapse, plain and simple. I get so tired of our fanbase’s “played over our heads” and “playing with house money all year” cliches to excuse/forgive another Auburn team for not capitalizing on a rare championship opportunity.

The day that mindset leaves our program and fanbase will be the day our program improves leaps and bounds.

 

[jeramye]

It’d be a collapse, plain and simple. I get so tired of our fanbase’s “played over our heads” and “playing with house money all year” cliches to excuse/forgive another Auburn team for not capitalizing on a rare championship opportunity.

The day that mindset leaves our program and fanbase will be the day our program improves leaps and bounds.

I mean we have played above our heads and this season was unexpected when the 2 starters got suspended...that's accurate I guess. But it doesn't change what it is now that we're on the cusp of something special that we almost never get to experience. Just because we overachieved for a few months doesn't mean we also wouldn't call this a collapse if we can't finish the deal here. At home. Vs a bottom tier conference team. With everything on the line.

You don't close in that situation and it's a collapse and I don't care if you were the picked to finish dead last and 0-18 in the league.

 

[jeramye]

-14 in 15 mins on the floor. 4TOs. Nobody else had more than 2. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=191208

My goodness young buck stop dribbling. Stop making terrible passes and fouls. How many times does Steven have to tell you!

On 2 of them I know all he had to do was pass the ball back out to the top and let the offense reset. They tried to get him a look, it wasn't there and he should just rotate the ball and move. But he tries to do too much and gets himself in trouble. (Bryce is doing too much of this as well)

 

[Denim Vest]

It’d be a collapse, plain and simple. I get so tired of our fanbase’s “played over our heads” and “playing with house money all year” cliches to excuse/forgive another Auburn team for not capitalizing on a rare championship opportunity.

The day that mindset leaves our program and fanbase will be the day our program improves leaps and bounds.

Losing to USC at home with a title on the line would be a choke job big time. Losing road games on short rest @UF and Ark are totally separate of that. I'll readily dismiss those as tough games hardly anyone would win.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

On 2 of them I know all he had to do was pass the ball back out to the top and let the offense reset. They tried to get him a look, it wasn't there and he should just rotate the ball and move. But he tries to do too much and gets himself in trouble. (Bryce is doing too much of this as well)

Yep. Harper is standing right beside him on at least one of them with his hands out asking for the ball. Malik looks at him and says, Nah, I got this fam."

 

[demeat]

For the 3rd time...it won’t be a collapse if we beat Carolina at home like we should. I do not understand how we call it anything but that if we lose that game. You keep talking about the road losses while ignoring that I stated those will be 100% forgotten if we take care of business Saturday.

Do you really contend this won’t feel like a collapse if we fall to a 12th place USCe for the 2nd time in a few weeks, this time at home, to lose the SEC title?

Dude, he is like 18 years old. I feel like he is jumping you like you jumped me that one time when I got on Jared Harper that one time. Haha. But seriously I think Gran Polla is a young AU fan and he reminds me a bit of @gary-7 but not as nice as @gary-7.

 

[Denim Vest]

Yep. Harper is standing right beside him on at least one of them with his hands out asking for the ball. Malik looks at him and says, Nah, I got this fam."

He's had a bad habit of just making terrible passes in the backcourt that lead to TOs as well. Like for real he needs to stop dribbling. Hand the ball off. Take a few spot up 3s. Get some oops and offensive put backs.

 

[demeat]

Losing to USC at home with a title on the line would be a choke job big time. Losing road games on short rest @UF and Ark are totally separate of that. I'll readily dismiss those as tough games hardly anyone would win.

We are the top team in the SEC you need to win those, unless really you are just an above average team that went from Elite to Average with the Mack loss.

 

[Denim Vest]

We are the top team in the SEC you need to win those, unless really you are just an above average team that went from Elite to Average with the Mack loss.

I mean every team in the country loses road games to top 30 clubs on a regular basis. That's just a fact. Maybe we are settling in as a top 10-15 squad instead of top 5. Or maybe our best player is struggling. Either way losing those doesn't really change anything from my view.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

He's had a bad habit of just making terrible passes in the backcourt that lead to TOs as well. Like for real he needs to stop dribbling. Hand the ball off. Take a few spot up 3s. Get some oops and offensive put backs.

Yeah, I think him sitting on the bench and seeing us struggle gets him in the mindset that he has to make an impact when he comes in the game. I'd rather see him become a rebounding and defensive menace and a 3-point shooter like you said. If he could just take that role for now the rest of the season, he'd help us out a bunch.

 

[demeat]

I do find there are times in games where guys without the ball don’t move at all without the ball etc. What is the worst is when on this possessions Harper just picks up his dribble and someone has to run up to him for a handoff pass. It is infuriating.

I think Heron and not Bryce needs to be THE short term hot hand guy. I feel more confident lately in his shot selection AND Chuma also is very good in shot selection. Harper and Bryce may need to shoot less for a while. They have been cold for a while.

 

[demeat]

I mean every team in the country loses road games to top 30 clubs on a regular basis. That's just a fact. Maybe we are settling in as a top 10-15 squad instead of top 5. Or maybe our best player is struggling. Either way losing those doesn't really change anything from my view.

We have lost the last 3 of 4 games. USC, UF (Bam beat them badly at UF), and now Arky. We are shooting like chit and that is why we are losing. We shoot okay and we win all 3

 

[Denim Vest]

We have lost the last 3 of 4 games. USC, UF (Bam beat them badly at UF), and now Arky. We are shooting like chit and that is why we are losing. We shoot okay and we win all 3

Such is basketball. The USC game was a debacle and I don't want to talk about it.

 

[Harvey Specter]

I do find there are times in games where guys without the ball don’t move at all without the ball etc. What is the worst is when on this possessions Harper just picks up his dribble and someone has to run up to him for a handoff pass. It is infuriating.

I think Heron and not Bryce needs to be THE short term hot hand guy. I feel more confident lately in his shot selection AND Chuma also is very good in shot selection. Harper and Bryce may need to shoot less for a while. They have been cold for a while.

We start running out of scorers pretty quickly if we start telling Harper and Bryce to stop shooting

 

[demeat]

We start running out of scorers pretty quickly if we start telling Harper and Bryce to stop shooting

Not stop but be smarter. They throw up some real chit lately. Chuma NEVER shoots a chit shot. Harper will dribble down sometimes and just chunk a brick 8 feet behind the line. Bryce will pop a 3 with zero numbers only to miss it and give the other team the ball because there is nobody to rebound. I understand they are streak shooters, but to me Stapha and for sure Chuma have been taking BETTER shots. Also it seems Stapha Still gets points when even cold and will draw a foul etc (Harper is good at this too). When others score more it will make things better for Brown I think. Or we just let him shoot his way out of this which may or may not happen.

 

[Big Blue]

I guess what troubles me is that when I try to step back and look at this objectively (which is nearly impossible for me) I find myself wondering if there is now a "recipe" for beating us. Overplaying our guards beyond the arc really seems to mess with our offense. When we are hot we still seem able to overcome that but we cannot hit very many contested/defended threes on the road. Couple this with defensive problems due to McLemore's absence, Brown's injury, and Heron's illness messing with our rotation and chemistry and we aren't really good enough on offense inside the arc to make up the difference when we aren't making threes.

Maybe some rest plus being at home will help with all of the above. We should shoot better on Saturday. We should have fresher legs and Brown may be closer to 100%. And maybe we will have some time to work in practice to get some of the defensive chemistry back. There doesn't seem to be anybody to really blame for what is going on. The biggest issues we have are related to missing players.

Regardless, I am still proud of this team and saddened by this dive at the end of the season. Like @jeramye I want that SEC title. Auburn only gets this kind of chance every decade or two. I want it even if it is shared. We need to hang a banner.

 

[Denim Vest]

I just point out our RPI is down to 7. Think it was 4 or 5 before the USC game. Basically, we've kept pace with everyone even through this stretch. Perfect world I'd have liked to come out of it with another win or 2 but whatever.

 

[Harvey Specter]

Still annoyed by that 1 point TAMU loss. Should've been ours

 

[Fatz Geronimo]

on the whole collapse thing - both sides are right and both sides are wrong...

if we lose to USC it’s a collapse... but nothing that has happened up to this point is a collapse at all

we’re also weren’t playing “over our heads” earlier... and now it’s finally caught up to us and we’re “losing to more talented teams”... don’t fall into the trap of dismissing how fvcking good we are

we’re good enough to win the SEC... we’ve been good enough to win the SEC since December... we beat the hell out of good teams in January and February... and we’re going to win the SEC because we’re the best team in the SEC

 

[Van Gorstache]

-14 in 15 mins on the floor. 4TOs. Nobody else had more than 2. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=191208

My goodness young buck stop dribbling. Stop making terrible passes and fouls. How many times does Steven have to tell you!

Dr. Chuma was +7 in 31 minutes! My God, that kid is gonna be a beast next year.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

I guess what troubles me is that when I try to step back and look at this objectively (which is nearly impossible for me) I find myself wondering if there is now a "recipe" for beating us. Overplaying our guards beyond the arc really seems to mess with our offense. When we are hot we still seem able to overcome that but we cannot hit very many contested/defended threes on the road. Couple this with defensive problems due to McLemore's absence, Brown's injury, and Heron's illness messing with our rotation and chemistry and we aren't really good enough on offense inside the arc to make up the difference when we aren't making threes.

Maybe some rest plus being at home will help with all of the above. We should shoot better on Saturday. We should have fresher legs and Brown may be closer to 100%. And maybe we will have some time to work in practice to get some of the defensive chemistry back. There doesn't seem to be anybody to really blame for what is going on. The biggest issues we have are related to missing players.

Regardless, I am still proud of this team and saddened by this dive at the end of the season. Like @jeramye I want that SEC title. Auburn only gets this kind of chance every decade or two. I want it even if it is shared. We need to hang a banner.

I believe @jeramye pointed it out elsewhere, but Mac and Murray were able to step out and hit some 3s that helped loosen up defenses. Teams been overplaying us for a while, but those guys along with Dunbar have been able to make shots that forced defenses to have to avert their full attention away from Harper, Brown, and Heron.

Right now, Murray isn't hitting the 3, Spencer isn't going to take one (although I wouldn't mind seeing him put one up if he's wide open to see how it looks), and Chuma gets the same treatment that the guards are getting around the perimeter. Chuma is the only big that stretches the D right now, and he's playing a brand new position, one we didn't really think he'd play this year.

We don't have many versatile offensive options right now with Brown banged up and Harper being inconsistent. I don't think we're finishing at the rim all that well right now, which makes everything even more difficult. It would be really nice if we could go back to working the ball into Murray or Chuma in the paint to try and find some easy baskets or draw some quick fouls. Our FT shooting is going to have to be our equalizer offensively with us being somewhat limited right now.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I guess what troubles me is that when I try to step back and look at this objectively (which is nearly impossible for me) I find myself wondering if there is now a "recipe" for beating us. Overplaying our guards beyond the arc really seems to mess with our offense. .

To me the biggest problem here is that we don't have as many "slashers" as Bruce typically would have. Heron is strong taking the ball to the basket, but he has mediocre handles so sometimes it's hard for him to get to that point. Similar problem with Murray. Without Mac we are having to play Chuma more at the 5, so that's one less guy that's can do it plus he doesn't do it as much as I think he should. When you've got a Doughty type wing at the 3 and a Chuma type wing at the 4, pressuring our guards deep is going to lead to lots of easy baskets.

 

[Gran_Polla]

It’d be a collapse, plain and simple. I get so tired of our fanbase’s “played over our heads” and “playing with house money all year” cliches to excuse/forgive another Auburn team for not capitalizing on a rare championship opportunity.

The day that mindset leaves our program and fanbase will be the day our program improves leaps and bounds.

Yes, because a "fans mindset" impacts the program/team. I love fans who get all pissy when you discuss games such as bama during week 3 of the season. They love to tell you to focus on this weeks game as if it will factor in on the teams success. LULZ! Never pegged you as that type. I'll make sure to get my mind right so the program can take off to levels unbeknownst to the FAMBLY.

 

[jeramye]

I believe @jeramye pointed it out elsewhere, but Mac and Murray were able to step out and hit some 3s that helped loosen up defenses. Teams been overplaying us for a while, but those guys along with Dunbar have been able to make shots that forced defenses to have to avert their full attention away from Harper, Brown, and Heron.

Right now, Murray isn't hitting the 3, Spencer isn't going to take one (although I wouldn't mind seeing him put one up if he's wide open to see how it looks), and Chuma gets the same treatment that the guards are getting around the perimeter. Chuma is the only big that stretches the D right now, and he's playing a brand new position, one we didn't really think he'd play this year.

We don't have many versatile offensive options right now with Brown banged up and Harper being inconsistent. I don't think we're finishing at the rim all that well right now, which makes everything even more difficult. It would be really nice if we could go back to working the ball into Murray or Chuma in the paint to try and find some easy baskets or draw some quick fouls. Our FT shooting is going to have to be our equalizer offensively with us being somewhat limited right now.

Yeah Murray went 6-14 over a 6 game stretch, for 42% from deep. Mac was hitting some at that time too. Now Chuma is replacing a lot of what Mac did there and is a more credible threat to knock it down, but Murray has gone stone cold. Don't think he's hit a triple in 5 games now. and I believe we are 2-3 during that rough stretch. It's not just that he isn't making them, he's barely taking them and he looks like he wants no part. Defenses are playing him almost like you'd play Spencer. I've seen him get the ball wide open and hesitate and then pass or dribble inside casually before tossing it back out.

I want to see him take 2-3 from deep in the first half this weekend if he's open. Do not let them play tight on our shooters and back off him. I'm curious to see how Frank Martin plays it too....they were hyper aggressive and overplayed everything and it really worked for a half. But once we got our head right we were scoring at will till our legs died. So does he gamble that we still will struggle with the intense overplay, or does he sit back more and make us execute in a different way?

 

[jeramye]

I guess what troubles me is that when I try to step back and look at this objectively (which is nearly impossible for me) I find myself wondering if there is now a "recipe" for beating us. Overplaying our guards beyond the arc really seems to mess with our offense. When we are hot we still seem able to overcome that but we cannot hit very many contested/defended threes on the road. Couple this with defensive problems due to McLemore's absence, Brown's injury, and Heron's illness messing with our rotation and chemistry and we aren't really good enough on offense inside the arc to make up the difference when we aren't making threes.

Maybe some rest plus being at home will help with all of the above. We should shoot better on Saturday. We should have fresher legs and Brown may be closer to 100%. And maybe we will have some time to work in practice to get some of the defensive chemistry back. There doesn't seem to be anybody to really blame for what is going on. The biggest issues we have are related to missing players.

Regardless, I am still proud of this team and saddened by this dive at the end of the season. Like @jeramye I want that SEC title. Auburn only gets this kind of chance every decade or two. I want it even if it is shared. We need to hang a banner.

I'm not sure overplaying us is the answer. It's risky as hell IMO, but the gamble has worked for a few teams. It's really hard to get away with that on Harper most nights as he can get around almost anyone. Feels like we've just made bad decisions and passes too often. That's on us more than anything else. And I think we need to attack the hard show on ball screens with some different options. I do feel like we're a bit predictable both in what we do there and what part of the court we screen on.

 

[ALLTIGER85]

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Is he ok?

 

[fairfield35064]

Still annoyed by that 1 point TAMU loss. Should've been ours

Another terrible foul called when the official should've swallowed his whistle. It's either a charge, or nothing, and the aTm guy missed the shot. Should've been decided in overtime.

 

[Denim Vest]

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

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