+++++Official Boogs vs LSU Game Thread+++++
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none of the losses before today meant anything to me... this one pretty much killed the season for me - not because we lost, but the way we lost
every single flaw we’ve shown at any point this season reappeared... we haven’t completely fixed a single one, so there’s too much work still left to do to get anywhere of consequence... and if we can’t mask those flaws the way we shot today, then forget about it
we could pull an upset and make the 2nd weekend, but at this point I have no expectations to even win a game
I’m still gonna enjoy bombing a few squads out of the gym... hope we ruin those bums from Knoxville on Senior Night... and I’ll really and truly enjoy making the tourney and rooting for a Cinderella run - because it will be a fvcking dream if this team does anything in March
We shot poorly from 3 against UK and USCe. But it’s typically more about us than it is our opponents. That’s why I can’t blame any of the losses on Wiley being out, although I’m in the tiny minority with those thoughts. We should’ve beaten UK at home and damn sure should’ve beaten USCe and should’ve won today. We just aren’t as good as I thought we’d be.
I think you’re forgetting that we shot 28% from 3 and had a shit ton of turnovers against USCe. UK starts 3 guards and 2 6’8” guys. It’s not always a size thing. Nobody else here feels that way, and I’m not trying to change anybody’s mind.
Sometimes getting abused inside starts with a 6’2” guard poking his lip out and not playing toug D and a 5’8” guard not Being able to hold his own. An immobile 6’11” helps at times with that but can’t guarnty anything for me.
Well yeah nobody agrees with you because you’re trying to argue that losing a starter a few days before we play one of the all time best programs in the country (and currently ranked 7th to our NR) didn’t make a difference. While simultaneously arguing that we “should have” beaten a team on the road that had a center score 30+ against us while we were missing the only 5 star center in AU basketball history.
Just FTR, That dude had 28 and 10 against UT and lost by 22. Thanks for not name calling today though because I think you’re a cool poster and don’t want to change that opinion just because I feel differently about how good we can be without 50 than you do.
Would be great if we could get all the calls one night but we overcame this shit last year. TV Teddy fouled out Chuma and Desean last year we still leave The Clam North with a 10 pt W against UT. TOs and Rebounds everybody knew what this one was about and we got worked in both.
We don’t need VCU transfers Presbyterian transfers or JUCO’s; none of that bullshit. I know we had to get those guys, but moving forward we need to max out on scholarship players(this past class was a good start) and sign guys with a high basketball IQ(most who are wanted by other good programs). We don’t have to sign guys like Anfernee, Samir and Dunbar anymore. Again, we had to sign them and I understand.
Moving forward stay away from them unless you have 10 solid guys and they are your 11-12-13 scholarship player. I take that back, don’t ever sign someone like Dunbar. He doesn’t need to be a 12th or 13th guy.
Moving forward stay away from them unless you have 10 solid guys and they are your 11-12-13 scholarship player. I take that back, don’t ever sign someone like Dunbar. He doesn’t need to be a 12th or 13th guy.
If Mac can’t rebound and block shots anymore than he definitely needs a lot more time on the bench one Austin is back healthy. Mac made some nice threes tonight but I’d rather have Horace taking all his minutes now. Let Danjel have all Ho Daddy’s minutes at the 4 and let Horace move back to getting 20 at the 5 again
That’s a pretty hAUt take. Bruce wants guys like Malik. Just part of it. Always will be.
Not one to harp on “wait til next year”, but the Final Four is in ATL next year. I’m hopeful that BRUCE & the HYGS will show up to see me, cause I’m gonna knock this one off the old bucket list for sure. I’m not through following my squad until the year is done, but I’ll save most of my money from huthut next year & spend it on what’s become my favorite sport Boogs related. I done crossed off my trip to the Swamp next year to ease my mind over the $$$
Malik was a last minute deal. We needed a JUCO guy to fill a spot. I’m sure Bruce would rather have a better player if he was given an option. He wouldn’t take someone like Malik over a high school stud.
Dang that’s dark but I feel you. So frustrating to again come up short in a marquee matchup and because we just pissed away a 16 pt lead.
Malik has really regressed since those first few SEC contests. I still think the pieces are there to take it to another level but time is running out. Bruce and Steven gotta figure out the rotations that can get us there. This next 3 game stretch is prob our last chance to do so.
If it’s me I’m cutting Mac and Samir down to 15ish mins. Danjel/ Ho/ Austin picking up the rest. If Malik wants to get back to not playing like a bum that’d be nice as well. We’ve got the guys to at least fix the rebounding and general softness in the paint issues just need to play them more.
yeah, it was dark... way too dark considering this is still going to end up one of the top 6-7ish squads in the history of the entire program - but I thought we had the pieces to make a deep run if we just cleaned up a few things and it’s frustrating that any sign of progress towards that end was completely wiped away by the same flaws
there’s 1 thing that will bring me around and give me hope:
Jared
Bryce
Chuma
Danjel
Horace (Austin if he ever gets AND STAYS healthy for more than 3 goddamn games)
JVon, Malik, Samir, and Mac can play at the Clam and against the UGA’s and Vandy’s of the world, then get out of the fvcking way when it’s time for the tourneys
people will recoil at this, but it’s true to a point
you can win with JUCO’s and transfers - especially since the transfer market is such a huge part of college basketball... but ideally they’ll be transfers from bigger schools... and they can’t make up 1/3rd of your rotation
it’s a testament to BRUCE’s coaching job last year and eye for talent for the late bloomers, but if you look at who we’re winning with now, our roster will have a much better pedigree in the years to come
Just as long a we don't start recruiting less than handsome young teens.
I would like to add to your earlier dark statement that I almost think hitting those 3's early hurt us. When we stay balanced with 3's/taking the ball to the basket/ AND defense leading to offense we are so good. When it come easy by just knocking down 3's, we regress to this lazy version of us that isn't that good. I also agree that I really hope we see that lineup some day. That lineup doesn't get out rebounded the way we were on Saturday, and it also has the best athletes (outside of maybe Malik who doesn't use his athleticism to the extent that he could anyway).
Sorry gents, I missed the LSU game while on vacation. This loss is on me and my gluttonous gallivanting through tropical locales. Is this thread worth reading or will it just make me sad?
it’s a rollercoaster ride for sure - only instead of a fun ending and slowly returning to your original location where you can exit the ride, you fly off the tracks completely and crash to your fiery death in the middle of the park, and to make it worse, you don’t die on impact you just sit and suffer while you burn to death, with the scent of your own melting flesh the last thought you’re able to fully comprehend before you finally succumb
so - knock yourself out
Alright then, let's just move on to Ole Miss.
Took me 3 days to be able to look back at this thread. That one hurt.
I'm trying to be the optimist because unlike in hut-hut I trust this coach and really like these players. One thing that I cannot be positive about....we're not suited to play against elite OREB-ing teams. We're actually a very good group in this area, ranked 16th in team offensive rebound %. But we've played 5 teams in the Top 25 in that statistic and we're 0-5 against them. Even when we win the raw OREB numbers in those games we give up too many of them ourselves and it hurts us. We're just not good enough on the defensive glass against teams that hit it hard. This is unlikely to change much. We will need to see a good tourney draw that avoids teams built this way.
On a better note, Chuma has been more assertive for 4-5 games now at least. He's our #3 scoring guy now and I think he's only going to keep growing in that role. Bryce and Harper aren't forcing off balance, contested 3's as often now and both seem to be penetrating more. That's a good sign. We need fully fit Wiley, if for nothing else because it keeps Mac limited to 10 minutes or so possibly. Mac has hit some shots early in games but his lack of strength is killing us on the glass and he's not impacting shots the way he did a year ago. I want to see him shifted down a few slots and be our 3rd choice C basically.
I'm trying to be the optimist because unlike in hut-hut I trust this coach and really like these players. One thing that I cannot be positive about....we're not suited to play against elite OREB-ing teams. We're actually a very good group in this area, ranked 16th in team offensive rebound %. But we've played 5 teams in the Top 25 in that statistic and we're 0-5 against them. Even when we win the raw OREB numbers in those games we give up too many of them ourselves and it hurts us. We're just not good enough on the defensive glass against teams that hit it hard. This is unlikely to change much. We will need to see a good tourney draw that avoids teams built this way.
On a better note, Chuma has been more assertive for 4-5 games now at least. He's our #3 scoring guy now and I think he's only going to keep growing in that role. Bryce and Harper aren't forcing off balance, contested 3's as often now and both seem to be penetrating more. That's a good sign. We need fully fit Wiley, if for nothing else because it keeps Mac limited to 10 minutes or so possibly. Mac has hit some shots early in games but his lack of strength is killing us on the glass and he's not impacting shots the way he did a year ago. I want to see him shifted down a few slots and be our 3rd choice C basically.
I’m talking about what he has become in the lockeroom and as a teammate. Not his production. He could’ve been replaced as a “player” this year if Bruce had wanted that.
