Boogs vs Mizzou (not mens softball)

[cookedw]

Going to be without Greenhill and Mitchell again. Sounds like both could likely be back next weekend.

For my boys @Harvey Specter and @Fillup Marschell (some in depth research)

Mizzou was founded in 1839 as the first pubic institution of higher education west of the Mississippi River. In 2017, their enrollment was ~30,870. They claim they founded the "Homecoming" game in football back in 1911. The campus is 1,262 acres (2 sq miles). They moved to the SEC in 2012, previously of the Big 12.

Also, they are currently 19-6 in baseball this year, with a 3-3 conference record (lost 2 of 3 at LSU and won 2 of 3 against MSU).

 

[cookedw]

Sorry, that should have said @Fillup Marschell and not @Stanley McRustler

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

Last week, they made a change to their starting rotation. They bumped their Friday starter to Sunday and moved a bullpen guy into the Friday slot. But that bullpen guy is pretty solid. He went 7 IP allowing 1 run on 4 hits and struck out 7 while walking 1. From what I can tell, he's never started an SEC road game. So this will be a big spot for him. But he's a 3/4 slot lefty that doesn't throw particularly hard (88-90) and will probably finesse his way around the zone and our lineup. Need to win this first one tonight.

 

[Harvey Specter]

Thank you for being thorough

 

[cookedw]

Auburn win games 1, 5-2

Mize pitcched 7.1 and gave up both runs. Coker finished off the final 5 outs

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

After that top half of the first inning, I got a little worried. Then Mize kinda settled in. Good win tonight.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

After that top half of the first inning, I got a little worried. Then Mize kinda settled in. Good win tonight.

How many pitches?

 

[wcw3au1]

How many pitches?

100.

 

[DufnerFanBoy]

How many pitches?

Too damn many. Shouldn’t have thrown more than 75-80.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Too damn many. Shouldn’t have thrown more than 75-80.

I was thinking more like 60 but whatevs..

 

[WDE_Tarp]

G2

Davis looked sharp, M1 0-0

 

[wcw3au1]

I was thinking more like 60 but whatevs..

Should have sat his a$$! Rest up while you can.

 

[BigtimeAub]

I was thinking more like 60 but whatevs..

If I’m not mistaken, the score was 2-1 at the 60 pitch mark. Would’ve been dumb to pull him right there. Maybe he shouldn’t have started the 8th, but 7 innings of work is just fine.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

0-0 after 1. Williams singled and Wright walked but couldn't get any runs across.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

If I’m not mistaken, the score was 2-1 at the 60 pitch mark. Would’ve been dumb to pull him right there. Maybe he shouldn’t have started the 8th, but 7 innings of work is just fine.

You’ll be singing a different tune when he’s missing starts late in our SEC slate once again

 

[BigtimeAub]

You’ll be singing a different tune when he’s missing starts late in our SEC slate once again

I understand what you’re saying. But last night is the wrong game to make that argument. His pitching was needed because the other guy was dealing and we only had a 1 run lead. He was on. If you had said 85-90 pitches, I’d agree. Where he should have been pulled was in earlier games with much bigger leads. You don’t risk a game like last night by pulling your ace with a one run lead (at the mark you’ve stated). At 60 pitches, no one knew we were going to crack it open like we did.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

I understand what you’re saying. But last night is the wrong game to make that argument. His pitching was needed because the other guy was dealing and we only had a 1 run lead. He was on. If you had said 85-90 pitches, I’d agree. Where he should have been pulled was in earlier games with much bigger leads. You don’t risk a game like last night by pulling your ace with a one run lead (at the mark you’ve stated). At 60 pitches, no one knew we were going to crack it open like we did.

Agree with this. It’s completely inexplicable that he wasn’t. Now we likely won’t have a horse to ride during our inevitable late season plummet.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

Daniel gets in a little trouble in the top of the 2nd, but works his way out. Big K to get out of the inning.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I understand what you’re saying. But last night is the wrong game to make that argument. His pitching was needed because the other guy was dealing and we only had a 1 run lead. He was on. If you had said 85-90 pitches, I’d agree. Where he should have been pulled was in earlier games with much bigger leads. You don’t risk a game like last night by pulling your ace with a one run lead (at the mark you’ve stated). At 60 pitches, no one knew we were going to crack it open like we did.

Jimmy also wants to host a regional but doesn't want to ride our ace. Not really worth responding to in baseball threads.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Jimmy also wants to host a regional but doesn't want to ride our ace. Not really worth responding to in baseball threads.

I suppose it’s too much to ask to be able to win some games without having your stud throw his arm off. Where’s the bullpen? I thought Butch was supposed to be some sort of pitching coach savant...

 

[wcw3au1]

Agree with this. It’s completely inexplicable that he wasn’t. Now we likely won’t have a horse to ride during our inevitable late season plummet.

Dude, you’re so FOS about baseball, it’s hard not to ignore you til May.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I suppose it’s too much to ask to be able to win some games without having your stud throw his arm off. Where’s the bullpen? I thought Butch was supposed to be some sort of pitching coach savant...

Whatever you say demeat.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

Davis had a nice top of the 4th with two K's. Headed to bottom of 4th up 1-0.

 

[wcw3au1]

Davis had a nice top of the 4th with two K's. Headed to bottom of 4th up 1-0.

Depending on how many pitches he’s thrown, should’ve sat his a$$!!

 

[L I G E R]

Whatever you say demeat.

I know Jimmy is trying to get a rise here, but seriously... where’s the bullpen?

 

[Gran_Polla]

How many days a week does Mize pitch? If he's only going once a week and a 100 pitches a week is to much, then his ass won't last in the majors.

 

[wcw3au1]

I know Jimmy is trying to get a rise here, but seriously... where’s the bullpen?

Seriously? We have guys hurt. We missed an entire class with Son Jimmyway. We are on a good trajectory. Stupidity will continue but reality will prevail.

 

[cookedw]

I know Jimmy is trying to get a rise here, but seriously... where’s the bullpen?

Still trying to build it from what little he inherited and our best two bullpen guys are out (hopefully back next week)

 

[cookedw]

Good grief, Ingram

 

[BigtimeAub]

When was the last time that we actually played a legit outfielder in LF and RF? Maybe I just see things differently but it’s always felt to me that we play a bunch of backup 1B type players out there or back up 2B in RF. This goofy ass #41 has booted every ground ball to him tonight. Hasn’t fielded anything cleanly.

 

[L I G E R]

Seriously? We have guys hurt. We missed an entire class with Son Jimmyway. We are on a good trajectory. Stupidity will continue but reality will prevail.

I get we still feel feelings about the raping of our roster from mean ole Sonny, but is 3 consecutive Top 10 recruiting classes not enough to make significant headway in the bullpen department, injuries notwithstanding?

 

[cookedw]

I get we still feel feelings about the raping of our roster from mean ole Sonny, but is 3 consecutive Top 10 recruiting classes not enough to make significant headway in the bullpen department, injuries notwithstanding?

1) you realize the 3rd top 10 class is currently in HS, right?

2) and Sonny's top 10 class (one webiste had them as that and I don't anyone else had them in the top 25) is pretty much gone

3) for someone who claims to have played college baseball (I believe you), I have always found it hard to understand why you have such a difficult time understanding the hole Butch was in when he came in with the roster he inherited and when he was hired

 

[wcw3au1]

I get we still feel feelings about the raping of our roster from mean ole Sonny, but is 3 consecutive Top 10 recruiting classes not enough to make significant headway in the bullpen department, injuries notwithstanding?

Lulz.....

 

[WDE_Tarp]

I know Jimmy is trying to get a rise here, but seriously... where’s the bullpen?

2 of our 3 best relievers are out and we're ranked number 11 so bullpen has been decent.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Depending on how many pitches he’s thrown, should’ve sat his a$$!!

1) you realize the 3rd top 10 class is currently in HS, right?

2) and Sonny's top 10 class (one webiste had them as that and I don't anyone else had them in the top 25) is pretty much gone

3) for someone who claims to have played college baseball (I believe you), I have always found it hard to understand why you have such a difficult time understanding the hole Butch was in when he came in with the roster he inherited and when he was hired

Yet Sunny was winning ball games in that ‘hole’ as you call it..

 

[BigtimeAub]

IMHO, Ingram sucks and shouldn’t be playing. And there’s nothing anyone can say to make me think differently.

 

[WDE_Tarp]

Yet Sunny was winning ball games in that ‘hole’ as you call it..

23-37 in the SEC. Yeah he was killing it.

 

[cookedw]

Yet Sunny was winning ball games in that ‘hole’ as you call it..

He went 13-17 in the SEC in his 2nd season and made it in the Regionals as a 3 seed. He didn't have the hole Butch did. Sonny ran off a lot of talent, including and entire class of Freshman that HE signed.

Regardless of your feelings on what type of Golloway coach was (I think he was a good coach), it doesn't change anything about the roster Butch inherited (and when he was hired).

 

[L I G E R]

1) you realize the 3rd top 10 class is currently in HS, right?

Yes.

2) and Sonny's top 10 class (one webiste had them as that and I don't anyone else had them in the top 25) is pretty much gone

I realize that.

3) for someone who claims to have played college baseball (I believe you), I have always found it hard to understand why you have such a difficult time understanding the hole Butch was in when he came in with the roster he inherited and when he was hired

That’s fair. But that’s also why you recruit. JUCO is loaded with players ready to come in and help.

 

[cookedw]

Yes.
I realize that.
That’s fair.

So then why do you try to make the arguments you do on this subject with the answers you just provided?